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THANK YOU. OKAY. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE LAMAR CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:33 P.M. THIS IS A SPECIAL CALLED BOARD MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 12TH, 2025. WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL
[3.A. Consider approval of authorization for Lamar CISD PD Chief of Police to establish Reserve Officer Program ]
TAKE ACTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S NO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I'M ASSUMING. NO.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL MAKE IT. TRUSTEE WELCH MADE THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. TRUSTEE LAMBERT MAKES THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. I NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? ANYONE WISH TO ABSTAIN? THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. OKAY. AT THIS TIME,
[5.A. Discussion and possible approval of meeting date, discuss tax rate, and designate officer]
WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE ACTION ITEMS. NIVENS. ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEES, WE HAVE OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, MISS LLOYD, TO COME TO THE PODIUM TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE AND OTHER ITEMS. GOOD EVENING. BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR NIVENS. THIS EVENING, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THREE OF THE TRUTH AND TAXATION ITEMS. YOU WILL FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DEJA VU BECAUSE YOU'LL FEEL LIKE YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. AND WE DID DO THIS BEFORE IN JUNE. SO THIS EVENING WE WILL BE FULFILLING HOPEFULLY THREE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE ON A DATE FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS AND OR ADOPT THE BUDGET AND PROPOSED TAX RATE THAT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON AUGUST 26TH. THE SECOND REQUIREMENT WOULD BE TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE THAT WILL PUBLISH IN OUR TRUTH AND TAXATION NOTICE. AND THEN THE THIRD REQUIREMENT IS TO DESIGNATE AN INDIVIDUAL TO CALCULATE CERTAIN MANDATED TAX RATES. WE ARE OFFICIALLY REPUBLISHING OUR NOTICE FOR TRUTH AND TAXATION THAT WE PUBLISHED DURING THE SUMMER. AND THAT WILL WILL BE BECAUSE THE RATE IS GOING TO NEED TO STAY THE SAME AS IT IS THIS YEAR FOR 2425, WHICH IS 0.6669 VERSUS THE 0.6537 THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING. AND NOW I'LL GO INTO SOME RATIONALE BEHIND THAT. THE COMPONENTS OF THE RATE ARE THE MCR PLUS $0.05. THE $0.05 WERE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED. THE MCR IS CALCULATED USING A FORMULA. HIGHER PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH RESULTS IN A LOWER MCR. LOWER PROPERTY GROWTH RATES RESULT IN A STABLE MCR. THE M.A.O RATE PUBLISHED IN JUNE, WAS LOWER BECAUSE THERE WAS WE WERE USING PRELIMINARY VALUES AND THE GROWTH RATE WAS CALCULATED AS A HIGHER RATE. IN JUNE, THE MCR WAS CALCULATED AT ABOUT $0.60, AND AT THIS TIME IT'S 6.6169. IN ORDER TO SATISFY ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAD TO SUBMIT A LOCAL PROPERTY VALUE SURVEY. AND THAT'S A TOOL THAT'S TI USES TO COLLECT INFORMATION NEEDED TO ASSIGN AN MCR TO EACH DISTRICT. THE 2024 MCR IS 0.616, AND THE 2025 MCR HAS BEEN CALCULATED AND APPROVED BY THE TI, AND IT WILL BE THE SAME RATE FOR THIS YEAR THIS UPCOMING YEAR AS IT WAS IN THE CURRENT YEAR. SO CERTIFIED VALUES WERE WERE RECEIVED FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN JULY. AS EXPECTED, WE DID HAVE THE DISTRICT DID HAVE HEALTHY OVERALL VALUE GROWTH. IT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE OVER 9%. BUT AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTY VALUES ARE REDUCED BY VARIOUS DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS. AND DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH HAD NOT ENDED IN JUNE, THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE BY THE LEGISLATURE TO THOSE EXEMPTIONS.THEY WERE INCREASED AND THE INCREASE WAS ENOUGH TO ELIMINATE ALMOST ALL OF THE VALUE GROWTH THAT THE DISTRICT EXPERIENCED. SO THE MCR CALCULATION IN JUNE, PRIOR TO THE END OF THE SESSION, UTILIZED CURRENT EXEMPTION AMOUNTS BEING $100,000 FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND $10,000
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FOR OVER 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS. THIS WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WAY TI HAD REQUIRED THE CALCULATION TO BE DONE AFTER PREVIOUS SESSIONS, WHERE THERE WERE INCREASES IN EXEMPTIONS. SO WE USED THAT SAME RATIONALE THIS YEAR. T REQUIRES THE USE OF THE PROPOSED OR FUTURE EXEMPTION AMOUNTS THAT HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED BY VOTERS YET. SO EXCUSE ME, WE'RE REQUIRED TO USE $140,000 FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND 60,000 FOR OVER 65 AND DISABLED PERSONS THAT DID PREVENT THE COMPRESSION OR THE REDUCTION OF THE MCR. SO, AS YOU WILL SEE BY THE TABLE, OUR CURRENT 2425 TAX RATE IS 1.1469, AND IT WILL REMAIN THE SAME FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. SO IT WILL BE A FLAT RATE. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HEALTHY OR GOOD TO SHOW HOW A PROPERTY OWNERS TAX BILL COULD CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE FOR A PERSON IN LAMAR CISD FOR 2025 WILL BE $411,074. THAT SAME HOME WOULD HAVE BEEN 392 392,007 20 IN 2024. SO WE HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF HOW YOU CALCULATE THE TAXES IN EACH YEAR. SO ON THE $392,000 VALUE WITH A $100,000 EXEMPTION, AND AT THE DOLLAR 14 RATE, THE TAXES WOULD BE $3,357.21. THE HIGHER VALUE WITH THE HIGHER HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF 140,000 AND THE SAME TAX RATE. THE ACTUAL TAX BILL WOULD BE 3108 95. SO YOU'LL SEE, BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS A TAXPAYER ACTUALLY SAVES MONEY.THEY SAVE ALMOST $250. SO IT'S $248.26. BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO COMPONENTS TO THAT SAVINGS. SO THEY ARE SAVING ON THE INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $40,000.
THEY'RE SAVING $458.76. BUT BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME OF $18,354 AT THE SAME TAX RATE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PAY $210.50 MORE. SO WHEN YOU NET THOSE TWO AMOUNTS, THAT'S HOW YOU YOU GET A NET SAVINGS OF $248.26. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE AUGUST 26TH AS THE DATE TO DISCUSS BUDGET AND TAX RATE. AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE THAT WE WILL PUBLISH IN OUR REPUBLISHED NOTICE. THE RATE OF 0.6669 AND AN INS RATE OF $0.48, FOR A TOTAL OF $1 1.1469, WHICH IS THE SAME RATE AS THE CURRENT YEAR. AND WE WILL ALSO ASK FOR YOU TO DESIGNATE THE OFFICE OF THE CFO TO CALCULATE THE MANDATED RATES. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHENEVER IS NOW AN APPROPRIATE TIME? YES. OKAY.
IT'S. THANK YOU, MISS LUDWIG. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THAT YOU DO FOR US. AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE A ME, SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, WE, YOU AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ON THE AGE 60 OVER AGE 65 EXEMPTION, AND I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD JUST HELP ME KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS. FROM THE STANDPOINT. I ALWAYS GET EXCITED ANYTIME I CAN TALK ABOUT SAVINGS, TAX SAVINGS, RIGHT, FOR OUR CONSTITUENCY. AND I KNOW THAT THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS BEFORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IT, AND ESPECIALLY FOR ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING, WHO MAY KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS A HOMEOWNER, RIGHT, AGE 65, HOMEOWNER, OR PERHAPS THERE'S SOMEONE WHO IS WHO IS TUNED IN, WHO'S IN THAT SITUATION NOW? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IF ONE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS, WHO IS OVER AGE 65, FILES A HOMEOWNER'S
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EXEMPTION, THEN THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME IS FROZEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE VALUE THAT THAT IS USED TO ASSESS THE TAX, IT'S THE ACTUAL TAX AMOUNT THAT'S FROZEN. IT'S OKAY. TAX AMOUNT IS FROZEN. UNLESS THEY MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO THEIR HOME. CORRECT? OKAY.AND EVEN THEN IT MAY IT MAY REMAIN FROZEN. SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S ONE BENEFIT TO FILING. AND A PERSON WOULD FILE THIS WITH THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND WE'RE ONLY SPEAKING IN RELATION TO SCHOOL TAXES. YES. SO GOING BACK ALSO TO THE TO THE ACTUAL EXEMPTION AMOUNT TODAY AS WE SPEAK, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED THAT THAT THAT EXEMPT THAT AMOUNT THAT'S EXEMPT IS $110,000 FOR, FOR OVER AGE 65.
IT'S, IT'S ONE 4140 140,000. IT WAS 100,000. OKAY. SO IT'S CURRENTLY 140,000. IT'S CURRENTLY 100,000. AND NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED A MEASURE THAT WILL ALLOW VOTERS TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT TO $200,000 IN NOVEMBER. IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY 100,000 NOW. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ABLE TO INCREASE IT TO 140,000 IN NOVEMBER. SO THAT'S THE MEASURE IN NOVEMBER. YES. IS TO 140,000 FOR THE AGE 65. YES. AND OVER TAXPAYER OKAY.
SO I GUESS DEPENDING ON THE VALUE OF ONE'S HOME, IT'S CONCEIVABLE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE TO PAY ANY SCHOOL TAXES WHO ARE AGE 65 AND OVER, DEPENDING ON THE VALUE, DEPENDING ON THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME. YES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF THEIR HOME IS $140,000 OR LESS. YES, MA'AM.
THEN CONCEIVABLY THEY THEY WOULDN'T PAY. YEAH. THANK YOU MA'AM, I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, IT'S A IT'S A TAX SAVINGS. AND AS A TAX SAVING ADVOCATE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU HELPED ME TO FOCUS ON THIS AND CONVEY THIS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY SPEAKING IN RELATION TO SCHOOL TAXES. AND THIS IS A MATTER THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HANDLE UTILIZING BY FILING IT AT THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. YES. THANK YOU. YES. MISS LUDWIG, WE HAD A JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW A BOARD BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THESE THINGS. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SLIDE, BY THE WAY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ABOUT JUST KIND OF DEMONSTRATING TO THE PUBLIC THE VALUE OF WHAT THEY WOULD PAY UNDER THE OLD RULES AND EXEMPTION AND WHAT THEY MIGHT PAY UNDER THE CURRENT ONES. BUT COULD YOU GO BACK A LITTLE FURTHER TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE FORMULA THE T USES? YES. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT ELABORATE? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE TO THE LAYMAN, YOU'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC IN US WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OF THE ACTUAL RATE BECAUSE OF A FORMULA THAT THE T USES MANDATED BY THE LEGISLATURE. RIGHT. THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE IS CALCULATED BASED ON A OR WITH A TOOL THAT THAT THE T PUBLISHES. AND WE HAVE TO FILL THAT OUT, SUBMIT IT, THEY REVIEW IT. AND THEN BY AUGUST 1ST THEY APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THE RATE. AND IT'S BASED ON VALUE GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT AND THE HIGHER VALUE GROWTH RATE, THE MORE YOUR TAX RATE DECREASES OR COMPRESSES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER EXEMPTION AMOUNT, THE 140,000 AND THE 60,000 VERSUS THE 100,010 THOUSAND, WHICH IS WHAT THOSE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS WERE BEFORE IT ELIMINATED THE VALUE GROWTH, WHICH KEPT OUR TAX RATE FROM COMPRESSING OR GETTING LOWER. SO THAT'S THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL WHY IT'S STAYING THE SAME. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO REFER BACK TO THIS VIDEO FOR ANYBODY WHO ASKS ME WHY WE'RE NOT LOWERING IT. AND WE ARE KEEPING IT THE SAME. RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU DO MUCH BETTER JOB EXPLAINING THESE THINGS THAN I DO. THANK YOU. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CALCULATIONS THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST TO UNDERSTAND OR EXPLAIN EITHER. SO. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS LUDWIG. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROVE? AUGUST 26TH, 2025, AS THE DATE TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND PROPOSED TAX RATE.
TRUSTEE BOX MAKES THE MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. TRUSTEE. MASTERS SECONDS. ALL. I WILL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
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CARRIES. I DIDN'T, AND I. I ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. OKAY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROVE. $1 OR $1.1469 AS THE RATE TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE TRUTH AND TAXATION NOTICED. NOTICE. MONIC. OKAY, TRUSTEE TRUSTEE HENDERSON MAKES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND TRUSTEE BOX SECONDS. I'LL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. I ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THIRD. NOW, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROVE THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER? CHIEF FINANCIAL FINANCIAL OFFICER, BE DESIGNATED TO CALCULATE THE TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE. OKAY, OKAY. TRUSTEE WELCH MAKES IT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? TRUSTEE LAMBERT. SECONDS. I'LL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.[5.B. Consider approval of Policy FM (Local) - Home School UIL Participation Policy]
NONE OPPOSED. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO FIVE B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF POLICY FM. LOCAL HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION POLICY. ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEES, WE HAVE MR. GABBERT UP AT THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING. BOARD OF TRUSTEES. AND DOCTOR NIVENS I'M GOING TO GO KIND OF FOLLOW JILL WITH THE DEJA VU THEME. IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST BOARD MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT CAME UP THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OR VOTE FOR. THE FIRST ONE WAS WE NEEDED A MOTION FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD IF WE WERE GOING TO OPT OUT. IF WE WERE NOT GOING TO OPT OUT, THEN WE WERE GOING TO DEFAULT IN AND NO MOTION WAS NECESSARY. AS THE SECOND PART OF THAT, AS A DISTRICT, IF WE OPTED IN, WE NEEDED A MOTION TO CHOOSE WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO LIMIT PARTICIPATION TO STUDENTS THAT WERE WITHIN OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARIES, OR IF WE WERE GOING TO ALLOW STUDENTS FROM DISTRICTS SURROUNDING US WHO DID NOT OPT IN TO PARTICIPATE. SO BASED ON THE DECISION WE MADE, WE DECIDED OR THE SCHOOL BOARD VOTED TO OPT IN OR DEFAULT IN FOR HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION IN ATHLETICS, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ON WHETHER WE COULD OPT OUT FOR THE FINE ARTS AND THE ACADEMIC SIDE OF UL. WE CONFERRED WITH OUR OUR LEGAL TEAM, AND THEY ASSURED US, BASED ON THE AMBIGUOUS WAY THE LAW WAS WRITTEN, THAT WE COULD CHOOSE WHICH OF THE THREE WE WERE GOING TO ALLOW PARTICIPATION IN AND NOT ALLOW PARTICIPATION IN. AND THEY ALSO SAID, BASED ON THE LAW AND THE UL INTERPRETATION, THAT WE COULD CHOOSE TO ALLOW OUR STUDENTS OR STUDENT STUDENTS WHO WERE HOMESCHOOLED WITHIN OUR DISTRICT TO OPT IN, BUT NOT ALLOW STUDENTS FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT TO OPT IN AS WELL. SO THE MOTIONS THAT WE MADE WERE IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT THEY FELT LIKE THE LAW WAS WRITTEN. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU BRIEFLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND US, WE HAVE ALLOWED TO OPT IN FOR UL ATHLETICS. KATY ALIEF ISD HAVE NOT OPTED IN.FORT BEND IS VOTING ON IT ON THURSDAY, AND WE ARE THE ONLY DISTRICT TO HAVE A VOTE FOR THE SECOND PART TO OPT OUT OF OUTSIDE LCISD PARTICIPATION. SO WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS COME UP ON WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE UIL ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES? AND SO WE'VE LISTED THEM OUT BY HIGH SCHOOL. THESE ARE OUR HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN UIL OR ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES.
JUNIOR HIGH BECOMES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK UNDER UIL JUNIOR HIGH THERE IS A SLEW OF THINGS THAT ARE OFFERED, BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE SPORTS THAT WE DO NOT OFFER. BUT THESE ARE WHAT WE DO OFFER AS FAR AS OUR JUNIOR HIGH OFFERINGS THAT ARE UIL ATHLETICS. SO IN LIGHT OF THIS, IT CAME UP THE FM LOCAL POLICY. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE OBJECTIVE TO THE CURRENT OBJECTIVE STATES THAT STUDENT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES SHALL BE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SCHOOL SPIRIT, SCHOOL PRIDE AND INTEREST. AND WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH. TRUSTEE MASTERS HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE CHANGE THIS TO ONE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS. STUDENT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES PLAY A KEY ROLE IN FOSTERING SCHOOL SPIRIT, SCHOOL PRIDE, AND INTEREST AMONG ENROLLED STUDENTS. OR OPTION TWO WOULD BE STUDENT. EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF SCHOOL SPIRIT, SCHOOL PRIDE, AND INTEREST FOR STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THE SCHOOL, OR OPTION THREE FOR ENROLLED STUDENTS. EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. HELP BUILD SCHOOL SPIRIT, PRIDE, AND INTEREST. SO BOARD BASED ON THE WHAT WE PRESENTED TO LEGAL, THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE CHANGE THE VERBIAGE TO CLARIFY THE BOARD'S INTENTION WITH HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION GOING FORWARD. AND SO WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR TWO THINGS. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CHANGE THE TO LOOK AT OBJECTIVE
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TWO IN THE CURRENT FM LOCAL POLICY TO SEE IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE VERBIAGE OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MOTION ALLOWING HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION. AT THIS TIME. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.MR. GEBHARDT, AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS DISTRICT FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE APPROVED IT. I WANT TO ASK SOMETHING HERE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING IS, IS PART OF THIS POLICY, AND I BELIEVE IT IS ON PAGE EIGHT, IN THE BOARD BOOK OF THE POLICY, IT SAYS NON ENROLLED STUDENTS SHOULD REGISTER BY THE START OF SCHOOL FOR ACTIVITIES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS A PARENT WHO HOMESCHOOLS. BUT THEIR KID WANTS TO PLAY A WINTER OR SPRING SPORT AND THEY DON'T KNOW THEY NEED TO REGISTER BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THEIR CHILD MIGHT TRY OUT AND MAKE A TEAM THAT MIGHT THAT REQUIREMENT CAN BE WAIVED. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE VERBIAGE HERE DOES ALLOW THAT THE VERBIAGE IS SHOULD, BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE INVOLVED FROM DAY ONE IN OUR OFF SEASON PROGRAMS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD IT AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THEY MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT QUITE YET. WE GET CALLS EVERY DAY ON IT, LIKE WE'RE GETTING 2 TO 3 PHONE CALLS A DAY BETWEEN MYSELF AND TOM JONES, OUR U.I.L COORDINATOR, WHERE WE'RE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS AND WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S MANDATORY. IF THEY HAVEN'T ENROLLED BY TODAY, THEN WE'RE NOT WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. GOOD OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT.
AND YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE. THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. SAME PAGE. IT SAYS IF A STUDENT IF AN LCI ISD STUDENT ENROLLS TO ATTEND HOMESCHOOL, THEY WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR PARTICIPATION FOR A ONE CALENDAR YEAR FROM THE WITHDRAWAL DATE. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THEY'VE CHANGED IT FROM A CALENDAR, A CALENDAR YEAR TO A SCHOOL YEAR. AND SO WE'LL EDIT THAT IN THE PACKET THAT YOU'VE GOT. IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST DISCOVERED FRIDAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, EVERYTHING WITH UIL ELIGIBILITY WISE IS BASED ON A CALENDAR YEAR EXCEPT HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION, AND IT'S BASED ON THE ACADEMIC YEAR OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO IF YOU HAD A STUDENT THAT UNENROLLED AT CHRISTMAS DURING THE SPRING SEMESTER, THEY WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE. BUT WHEN WE STARTED SCHOOL THE FOLLOWING AUGUST, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AGAIN. COACH, I REMEMBER READING SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT INTO EFFECT OR NOT. WAS THERE ANY CHANGES IN ELIGIBILITY FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES TRANSFERS FOR ATHLETIC PURPOSES RECENTLY WITH U.I.L? NOT NOT PERTAINING TO THIS LIKE IT'S BASED ON BOARD POLICY. AND THEN FOR THIS, IT'S BASED ON THE PPF, WHICH IS YOUR PREVIOUS PREVIOUS ATHLETIC PARTICIPATION FORM. AND A LOT OF THAT GOES INTO VERIFYING THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A CALENDAR YEAR OR VERIFYING WHERE THEY LIVE. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, LIKE WITH HOMESCHOOL PARTICIPATION FOR VARSITY STUDENT ATHLETE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE LIVED WITHIN THE SCHOOL ZONE FOR A CALENDAR YEAR TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE A VARSITY STUDENT ATHLETE. BUT TO BE A VARSITY PLAYER, WE COULD HAVE A KID WHO JUST MOVED INTO THE DISTRICT. THEY THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO PLAY SUB VARSITY FOR A YEAR UNTIL THEY GET THAT YEAR RESIDENCY, THEN THEY WOULD BE VARSITY ELIGIBLE. OKAY. SO WE I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY MAY TRANSFER IN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SAY THEY ARE HOMESCHOOLED WHENEVER THEY'RE PREVIOUSLY FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR, PLAYING FOR A NEIGHBORING DISTRICT FOR VARSITY PARTICIPATION. THEY HAVE TO BE HERE FOR CALENDAR YEAR. OKAY. AND SO WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO RUIN SOMEBODY ELSE'S ELIGIBILITY TO GO TO A TOP TIER. MYSELF AND TOM JONES LOOK AT EACH EACH CANDIDATE THAT COMES THROUGH OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OKAY. SO WE NEED TO DO TWO THINGS. FIRST, WE NEED A MOTION FOR ONE OF THESE OPTIONS. CORRECT. OKAY. SO ACTUALLY DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHICH OF THESE OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION. YEAH. SO THIS PAGE THIS THE FM LOCAL PAGE. THIS IS THIS THE FIRST PAGE FOR THE HOMESCHOOL? NO, IT'S JUST GENERAL EXISTING POLICY. EXISTING POLICY OKAY OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE OBJECTIVE NUMBER TWO ON EXISTING POLICY OKAY. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ONE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS I THINK WE WOULD
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LIKE TO ASK FIRST TRUSTEE MASTERS WHICH ONE SHE LIKES THE BEST OF THE THREE SHE SUGGESTED BECAUSE THEY ALL SEEM TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR. I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FOR OPTION NUMBER THREE. OKAY. CAN I ASK WHEN IT SAYS FOR ENROLLED STUDENTS? I MEAN, LIKE, WHY ARE YOU SPECIFYING LIKE THE FIRST ONE IS JUST TALKING ABOUT STUDENTS IN GENERAL? LIKE, ARE YOU ARE YOU SPECIFYING ENROLLED STUDENTS FOR PARTICULAR REASON? OBVIOUSLY ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE THAT ADDED IN. YEAH. FOR STUDENTS, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT STUDENTS IN GENERAL. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. OKAY. SO THE REASON WHY IN READING THROUGH THIS STUDENT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY SHALL BE PRIMARILY PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SCHOOL SPIRIT, SCHOOL PRIDE AND INTEREST. WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT STUDENTS WHO WERE ENROLLED VERSUS ENROLLED, THAT FELT CONTRADICTORY WHEN APPLIED TO STUDENTS WHO DON'T ATTEND THE SCHOOL THAT THEY REPRESENT. AND SO SHARING CLASSES, TEACHERS, AND DAILY EXPERIENCES, NOT SIMPLY JUST PLAYING FOR THE TEAM WEARING THE JERSEY IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING PART OF THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY. SO TO BETTER REFLECT THE INTENT, I SUGGESTED THESE OPTIONS. SO YOU'RE SEPARATING OUT KIDS WHO ARE HOMESCHOOL KIDS VERSUS OTHER KIDS FOR SCHOOL PRIDE OR I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, JUST ENROLLED STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY IMMERSED IN LAMAR. SEE ISD. YEAH, IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY. IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, SPECIFIC TO ME. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, ARE IF A STUDENT IS HOMESCHOOLED AND MAKES A TEAM, HE OR SHE IS CONSIDERED A ZERO ENROLLED STUDENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND THAT'S A TERM THAT THERE'S THAT'S A TERM THAT MEANS I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ENROLLED ON A CAMPUS FOR LESS THAN TWO HOURS A DAY. SO THEY'RE IN OUR SYSTEM. THEY'RE CONSIDERED A ZERO ENROLLED. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT? IF THEY'RE ENROLLED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE OF THE STATEMENT. NO. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. TO ME, THIS JUST SOUNDS LIKE SEMANTICS.I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S ACHIEVING. BUT IF WE ARE. IF WE'RE GOING TO PICK ONE, THEN WHICH ONE SHOULD WE PICK? THEY? I IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY YOU LIKE OPTION THREE THE BEST? NO. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HELPS BUILD SCHOOL PRIDE, SPIRIT, PRIDE AND INTEREST, BUT I'M OKAY WITH ALL THREE OPTIONS. OKAY. WELL, SINCE HAVING SAID THAT, I FRANKLY I'M LEANING TOWARD OPTION ONE. I THINK IT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE GROUP, BUT THE CHALLENGE THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH OPTION TWO IS THAT IT INDICATES FOR STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THE SCHOOL, AND SO HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS AREN'T GOING TO ATTEND THAT SCHOOL. SO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD ELIMINATE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS AT LEAST. BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE OPTION ONE, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH OPTION ONE, PRETTY MUCH ENCOMPASSES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU STATE AGAIN WHY IT HAS TO BE CHANGED? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CHANGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUSTEE. MASTERS EMAILED IT TO ME, AND SINCE IT'S A CHANGE IN POLICY THEN THAT THAT REQUIRES BOARD ACTION. OKAY. AND SO BUT THE BOARD CAN CHOOSE TO ADOPT ONE OF THESE. OR THE BOARD CAN SAY WE WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS. IT'S THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE. CAN I ASK WHO WANTS TO CHANGE IT AND WHO WANTS TO LIKE TAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE IT? DOES IT? TRUSTEE MASTERS DOES. I DON'T REALLY CARE EITHER WAY, TO BE HONEST. OKAY, SO SAY YES OR NO. EVERYBODY. YES. NO. SUZANNE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S REALLY GOING TO READ THIS OKAY. VERY OFTEN. OKAY. WELL, CAN I THEN HAVE A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE TO, FOR US TO CHANGE THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF THE POLICY TO OPTION ONE STUDENT EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES PLAY A KEY ROLE IN FOSTERING SCHOOL SPIRIT, SCHOOL PRIDE AND INTEREST AMONG
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ENROLLED STUDENTS. SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, LET ME BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. JUST SINCE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME INDIFFERENCE, CAN WE MOVE TO TABLE THE MATTER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DISCUSS? IF WE TABLE IT TODAY, THEN WE CAN EITHER REVISIT. NO ONE SEEMS TO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. EITHER WAY, WE COULD TABLE IT. YES, OR WE COULD JUST MAKE A MOTION JUST TO LEAVE IT AS IS WELL, IN SUPPORT. I THINK THE TRUSTEE MASTERS HAD A GOOD REASON. I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT SHE HAD A GOOD REASON FOR WANTING, AND I JUST LIKE TO HAVE GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE. AND SO IN WITH RESPECT TO MY COLLEAGUE, I JUST I'D PREFER TO, TO, TO TABLE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THE ISSUE OKAY. TRUSTEE RUIZ MOVES TO TABLE THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND TRUSTEE BOX SECONDS. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.OKAY. SO NEXT IS. WE NEED TO OPT OUT OF THE NON U.I.L. SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO OPT OUT ON NON ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES. AND TO ALSO OPT OUT FOR STUDENTS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF LAMAR ISD. TRUSTEE BOX MAKES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND TRUSTEE HENDERSON SECONDS. I'LL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. HI. ANY OPPOSED? ONE. THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE. OKAY. MOVING ON TO FIVE. C CONSIDER APPROVAL OF STUDENT
[5.C. Consider approval of Student Code of Conduct]
CODE OF CONDUCT. TRUSTEES, WE HAVE MR. NAVA COMING TO THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES. DOCTOR NIVENS, TONIGHT I'LL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON CHANGES FROM THE 89TH LEGISLATURE. AND SO THIS IS OVER THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. CHAPTER 37 OF THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE SERVES AS THE CORNERSTONE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. AND UNDER CHAPTER 37 001, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND EVERY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT MUST, WITH THE ADVICE OF ITS DISTRICT LEVEL COMMITTEE, ADOPT A STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THE DISTRICT EACH YEAR. ONCE THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT IS APPROVED, THE CODE OF CONDUCT MUST BE POSTED PROMINENTLY AT EACH CAMPUS OR MADE AVAILABLE AT THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE. THE DISTRICT MUST ALSO INFORM PARENTS EACH SCHOOL YEAR OF THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AND ITS CONTENTS. THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT IS TO DEFINE THE STANDARDS FOR STUDENT BEHAVIOR, OUTLINED DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS ENSURE CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS ACROSS CAMPUSES, AND REFLECT CHANGES IN LAW, POLICY, AND DISTRICT PROCEDURES. THIS SLIDE HERE PROVIDES YOU A SUMMARY OF THE GENERAL CHANGES BEING RECOMMENDED FOR THE 2425 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. ADDITIONAL CHANGES BASED ON HB SIX WILL BE PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. ONE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE BY THE LEGISLATURE IS IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES. HOUSE BILL 1481 REVISES THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.082 TO MANDATE THAT EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT, STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT MUST REQUIRE THE ADOPTION OF A WRITTEN PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE BAND POLICY, ENSURING THAT THE POLICY INCLUDES MEASURES FOR VIOLATIONS, INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY FOR CONFISCATION AND DISPOSAL OF THE DEVICE. IT ALSO AUTHORIZES ONE OF TWO OPTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE BANNING THE DEVICES ENTIRELY, OR TWO DESIGNATING A SECURE MANNER FOR STORAGE OF THE DEVICE. BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DISCIPLINE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE OPTED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE STUDENT SECURE THEIR DEVICES IN THEIR BACKPACKS. IT ALSO REQUIRES CAMPUSES TO PROVIDE A 90 DAY WRITTEN NOTICE FOR TWO PARENTS FOR DISPOSAL OF THE CONFISCATED ITEMS, AND PROVIDES FOR EXCEPTIONS FOR CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS BASED ON THE STUDENT'S IEP OR 504 PLAN. ADDITIONAL QUALIFICATIONS MAY BE NOTES FROM A PHYSICIAN OR MEDICAL PRACTITIONER FOR REASONS AND EXCEPTIONS AND EXEMPTIONS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH THE HEALTH OR SAFETY CODE. OOPS. THIS SLIDE HERE REPRESENTS THE INITIAL POLICY THAT WAS[00:35:01]
RECOMMENDED BACK IN JUNE, PRIOR TO THE GOVERNOR SIGNING THE BILL. THAT BILL RESULTED IN A REVISION TO THE POLICY BASED ON HB 1481. THE INFORMATION IN GREEN HERE IS THE PROPOSED POLICY FOR THE 20 2526 SCHOOL YEAR. THE RECOMMENDATION FOR PERSONAL COMMUNICATION POLICY BEGINS BY ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE POLICY, BY DEFINING WHAT A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE IS, DEVICE IS FOLLOWED BY THE EXPECTATIONS FOR SECURING THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE. AND HERE YOU SEE THAT THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE IS A CELL PHONE, ANY TWO WAY RADIOS, SMART WATCHES, SMART GLASSES, SMART RINGS, NON LCISD LAPTOPS, TABLETS AND IPADS. ANY GAMING DEVICE WITH MESSAGING AND INTERNET CAPACITY, HEADPHONES, EARBUDS OR ANY OTHER BLUETOOTH AUDIO DEVICE. ANY PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE NOT ISSUED BY LCISD. THIS SLIDE HERE ESTABLISHES THE EXPECTATIONS FOR SECURING THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE AT EACH CAMPUS. ALL PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES ARE REQUIRED TO BE TURNED OFF AND PUT AWAY BEFORE ENTERING THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. PERSONAL TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES SHALL BE KEPT IN THE STUDENT'S BACKPACK OR LOCKER AND NOT IN CLOTHING POCKETS. THESE DEVICES ARE TO REMAIN OFF AND COMPLETELY OUT OF SIGHT OR OUT OF VIEW, ON SITE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCHOOL DAY. ANY NON-SCHOOL ISSUED DEVICE IN VIEW OR IN USE BEFORE THE FINAL BELL RINGS WILL BE CONFISCATED. THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES CAN BE TURNED ON AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY AFTER THE FINAL BELL RINGS. THIS WILL ALLOW STUDENTS TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH PARENTS OR ANYONE ASSISTING IN TRANSPORTATION. ADDITIONALLY, ANY PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE THAT IS VISIBLE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY OR THAT IS TURNED ON IN A BACKPACK THAT DISRUPTS THE CLASSROOM WILL BE CONFISCATED. WHEN A DEVICE IS CONFISCATED, PARENTS WILL BE NOTIFIED. ANY STUDENT WHO REFUSES TO TURN OVER HIS OR HER PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE, WHEN ASKED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR, WILL HAVE A DISCIPLINARY ACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, RANGING FROM A MAJOR OFFENSE TO A POSSIBLE OFFENSE. THIS SLIDE HERE REPRESENTS OUR PERSONAL COMMUNICATION POLICY FOR THE 20 2425 SCHOOL YEAR. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. SO THIS IS THE PERSONAL THE RECOMMENDED PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE POLICY. ON THE FIRST OFFENSE, THE STUDENT OR THE PARENT WILL BE NOTIFIED AND THE PARENT WILL PICK UP THE DEVICE AFTER SCHOOL.SECOND OFFENSE. THE STUDENT IS ASSIGNED TO IN-SCHOOL SUSPENSION FOR A PERIOD OF THREE DAYS. THE PARENT WILL BE NOTIFIED AND THE PARENT WILL PICK UP THE DEVICE AFTER SCHOOL. THE STUDENT CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES FOR THE DURATION OF THE ES PLACEMENT. DURING THE THIRD OFFENSE, THE STUDENTS ARE ASSIGNED TO OUT-OF-SCHOOL SUSPENSION FOR A PERIOD OF THREE DAYS. PARENTS ARE NOTIFIED. THE PARENT ALSO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP THE PHONE AFTER SCHOOL. EXEMPTIONS WILL BE LOST DUE TO IT BEING A SECOND OFFICE REFERRAL, AND THE STUDENT CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES OR BE ON CAMPUS DURING THE DURATION OF THAT THREE DAY SUSPENSION, AND ON THE FOURTH OFFENSE, THE STUDENT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ALC FOR A PERIOD OF TEN DAYS. PARENTS WILL BE NOTIFIED. THE STUDENT OR THE PARENT WILL ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK UP THE PHONE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY, AND THE INDIVIDUAL USES UIL PARTICIPATION ELIGIBILITY FOR THE SEMESTER. AND ON THE FIFTH OFFENSE AND BEYOND, THE STUDENT WILL CONTINUE TO BE ASSIGNED TO ALC FOR A PERIOD OF TEN DAYS WITH THE SAME UNDERSTANDING, THE PARENTS WILL BE NOTIFIED. THE PICKING UP OF DEVICE AFTER SCHOOL AND LOSS OF ELIGIBILITY FOR PARTICIPATION FOR THE SEMESTER. AND UPON RETURN TO THE SCHOOL, THE PHONE MUST BE TURNED IN TO THE FRONT OFFICE AND STORED FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE DAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT ITEMS THAT DISRUPT THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS BY BEING ON TEMPORARILY OR WILL BE TEMPORARILY CONFISCATED. SCHOOL PERSONNEL WILL COLLECT THE ELECTRONIC DEVICE AND TURN IT INTO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE. PARENTS OR GUARDIANS, AND OR ANY THIRD PARTY THAT RETAINS THE LEGAL RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP MAY OBTAIN THE RELEASE OF THE ELECTRONIC DEVICE. ANY PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE CONFISCATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH HB 1481 POLICY THAT IS NOT PICKED UP BY THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN AFTER THE 90 DAY WRITTEN NOTIFICATION WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE LCISD POLICE DEPARTMENT AT 3911 AVENUE I, ROSENBERG, TEXAS 77471 TO BE DESTROYED. OKAY, THIS IS JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT I JUST
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KIND OF WENT OVER. USE OF DEVICE WILL BE TEMPORARILY CONFISCATED. SCHOOL PERSONNEL WILL COLLECT AND TURN THE DEVICE INTO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE. THE OWNER OF DEVICE MAY PICK UP THE DEVICE AFTER SCHOOL, AND ANY DEVICE THAT IS CONFISCATED AND NOT PICKED UP WITHIN A 90 DAY WRITTEN NOTIFICATION WILL BE TURNED OVER TO OCSD POLICE FOR DESTRUCTION. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND IDENTIFIED THE INSTRUCTIONAL DAY. THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY IS CONSIDERED AS THE FOLLOWING AND BASED OFF OF WHICH CAMPUS YOU ARE. THE TIMES WILL WILL VARY. SO ELEMENTARY A IS 715 TO 240. THAT'S THE INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. ELEMENTARY B IS FROM 7:45 A.M.TO 3:10 P.M. JUNIOR HIGH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL ARE FROM 9:05 A.M. TO 4:30 P.M, AND HIGH SCHOOLS ARE FROM 825 TO 3:50 P.M. STUDENTS RECEIVING A PARENT OR FAMILY PHONE CALL OR TEXT MESSAGE DURING CLASS IS NOT A VALID EXCUSE TO ANSWER THE PHONE OR TO HAVE THE PHONE ON.
DISCIPLINARY CONSEQUENCES WILL OCCUR, AND IF THE PARENT NEEDS TO REACH THEIR STUDENT WITH AN EMERGENCY, THEY NEED TO CALL THE FRONT OFFICE. IF A STUDENT NEEDS TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY CALL DURING THE DAY, THEY ARE TO COME TO THE FRONT OFFICE AS WELL. ONE OF ONE POINT OF CLARITY WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION PRESENTED, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE BOARD DETERMINE THE PARAMETERS AND THE DEFINITION OF A SCHOOL DAY. I THINK WE'VE REFERENCED BOTH INSTRUCTIONAL TIME AND SCHOOL DAY WITHIN THE POLICY, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE CLARITY. SO THESE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. A SCHOOL DAY IS DEFINED AS FROM THE TIME THE STUDENT STEPS FOOT ON THE CAMPUS TO THE LAST INSTRUCTIONAL BELL, OR A SCHOOL DAY IS DEFINED FROM THE TIME OF THE FIRST INSTRUCTIONAL BILL TO THE LAST. OKAY. ADDITIONAL EXCEPTIONS.
AGAIN, BASED OFF OF H.B. 45, WE ARE TO ALLOW FOR EXCEPTIONS. SO STUDENTS WHO HAVE AN IEP 504 PLAN OR AN INDIVIDUAL HEALTH PLAN THAT REQUIRES USE OF AN ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION DEVICE WILL BE ALLOWED. STUDENTS WITH EXCEPTIONS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A POUCH TO HAVE ACCESS TO PHONES WHEN NECESSARY. USED FOR DOCUMENTED NEED IN CLASS ONLY. OTHER USES ARE A VIOLATION AND WILL RESULT IN A DISCIPLINARY ACTION. NOTHING SHALL PROHIBIT THE USE. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. AN EMERGENCY IS DEFINED AS THE ACTUAL THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY, WHICH MAY RESULT IN LOSS OF LIFE, INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE, LOSS OR THEFT OF ANY PERSONAL OWNED DEVICE.
ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THIS, THE RECOMMENDED POLICY. AGAIN, WE ARE SEEKING SOME CLARITY, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WITHIN THE POLICY, WE ADDRESSED A POUCH. SO A STUDENT WITH A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE WILL BE IDENTIFIED WITH AN INDICATOR PLACED ON THEIR ID.
THAT'S ONE OPTION. AND THE OTHER OPTION IS A STUDENT WITH A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE.
EXCEPTION WILL BE IDENTIFIED BY BEING PROVIDED WITH A DEVICE STORAGE POUCH. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE CLARITY ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. AGAIN, AS THE BOARD, YOU WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THE POLICY ADDRESSING INDIVIDUALS WITH EXCEPTIONS AND THE WAY THEY WILL BE IDENTIFIED BY STAFF AND THE METHOD IN WHICH THEIR PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES WILL BE STORED. POUCHES GENERALLY HAVE A LOCKING MECHANISM WHICH WILL INHIBIT THE STUDENT FROM ACCESSING THEIR DEVICE. NOW THERE ARE SOME POUCHES THAT DON'T LOCK, SO THAT'S THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL. IF WE GO TO THE POUCH OPTION. SO ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT BASED OFF OF H.B. SIX. SO H.B. SIX ALLOWS FOR DISCRETIONARY PLACEMENT FOR FIRST TIME USE OR POSSESSION OF E-CIGARETTES. THAT'S NEW. HB SIX ALSO CONTINUES TO KEEP THE SELLING, GIVING AND DELIVERING TO ANOTHER PERSON AN E-CIGARETTE AS A MANDATORY PLACEMENT AND SECOND TIME VIOLATIONS FOR USE AND POSSESSION ARE ALSO MANDATORY. PAP DEP PLACEMENTS BASED ON THE PROPOSED VAPING POLICY. SO THE RECOMMENDED VAPING POLICY IS ON THE FIRST OFFENSE THE PARENT WILL BE WILL BE CONTACTED, THE DEVICE WILL BE CONFISCATED, AND THE STUDENT IS DISCIPLINED WITH A TEN DAY PLACEMENT IN ES, THE STUDENT AND PARENT WILL SIGN A CONTRACT. THE STUDENT CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES DUE TO THE ES PLACEMENT ON THE
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SECOND OFFENSE. THE PARENT WILL BE CONTACTED. THE DEVICE WILL BE CONFISCATED. THE STUDENT IS DISCIPLINED AND PLACED AT ALC FOR A PERIOD OF 15 DAYS. THE STUDENT ENROLLED IN A SUBSTANCE EDUCATION PREVENTION PROGRAM WHILE AT DAP, AND NO PARTICIPATION FOR THE SEMESTER.ON THE THIRD OFFENSE, THE PARENT WILL BE NOTIFIED, THE DEVICE CONFISCATED, THE STUDENT WILL BE PLACED AT THE DAP OR ALC FOR A PERIOD OF 20 DAYS. THE STUDENT AND PARENTS ARE ALSO REFERRED TO A SUBSTANCE EDUCATION AND PREVENTION PREVENTION AGENCY, AND AGAIN, NO PARTICIPATION FOR THE SEMESTER. FOURTH OFFENSE. THE DAYS ARE INCREASED TO A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL PLANNING OR COUNSELOR PLAN, WHICH IS A BIWEEKLY CHECK IN TO ENSURE THE STUDENT IS DOING WELL AND THEN NO, NO PARTICIPATION IN ACTIVITIES. AND ON THE FIFTH OFFENSE, THE PARENT CONTACT DEVICE CONFISCATED THE STUDENT ASSIGNED TO A 45 DAY PLACEMENT, SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELING. AND WE PROVIDE RESOURCES, CONNECTIONS AND NO PARTICIPATION FOR THE SEMESTER. SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 37, SECTION TEN, SELLING, DELIVERING AND DISTRIBUTION OF ANY CIGARETTE WILL RESULT IN A MANDATORY PLACEMENT. OKAY, ADDITIONAL CHANGES BASED OFF OF HB SIX HB SIX MODIFIES THE REASONS FOR SUSPENSION OF YOUNGER STUDENTS YOUNGER THAN THIRD GRADE AND HOMELESS STUDENTS, AND THAT CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 36 OF THE DRAFT THAT WAS PROVIDED. AND THEY CAN BE SUSPENDED FOR WEAPON OFFENSES, THREATS, THE IMMEDIATE HEALTH OR SAFETY OF OTHER STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM, WHICH IS A NEW ADDITION. DOCUMENTED CONDUCT OF REPEAT AND SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS TO THE CLASSROOM.
THAT TOO IS A NEW ADDITION. AND THEN DRUG AND ALCOHOL OFFENSES. ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS KEEPS THIS. CURRENTLY, HB SIX KEEPS STUDENT SUSPENSIONS AT THREE DAYS PER INCIDENT, BUT CHANGES ES PLACEMENTS TO UNLIMITED. BUT IT REQUIRES AN EVALUATION EVERY TEN DAYS. CHANGES TO THE LANGUAGE FROM MAY TO SHALL WITH REGARDS TO PLACEMENTS AT DAP FOR FELONY OFFENSES. DEFERRED PROSECUTION FOR FELONY OFFENSES, AND IF THE COURT FINDS THAT THE STUDENT HAS ENGAGED IN DELINQUENT BEHAVIOR WHILE OFF CAMPUS, THE DURATION OF ELEMENTARY STUDENTS PLACEMENT AT DAP HAS ALSO INCREASED FROM A PERIOD OF 20 OR 15 TO 20 DAYS TO UP TO 30 DAYS, AND THE ADDITION OF TRANSPORTATION. THIS IS NOT THE LAW, BUT WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND SEPARATED IT TO KIND OF STAND FOR, TOOK IT STAND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN OUR IN OUR POLICY. SO THE ADDITION OF TRANSPORTATION AS A HEADER UNDER THE DAP PLACEMENT, INFORMING PARENTS THAT THE DISTRICT DOES NOT PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO THE DAP. AND FINALLY, THE CHANGES TO FELONY OFFENSES AGAIN FROM MAY PLACE TO SHALL PLACE AT THE DAP OR EXPELLED FOR TITLE FIVE OFFENSES UNDER TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.0081, AND ADDS DEFERRED PROSECUTION AND DELINQUENT BEHAVIOR ON OR OFF CAMPUS AS A MANDATORY PLACEMENT, AND IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL EXPENDABLE OFFENSES SUCH AS BURGLARY AND KIDNAPING. UNDER TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.007. IT ALSO ADDRESSES SPECIFIC BEHAVIORS FOR SPECIAL ED STUDENTS THAT REQUIRE AN MDR TO OCCUR PRIOR TO ANY CHANGE OF PLACEMENT, AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO BULLYING, HARASSMENT, AND THE CREATION OF ANY HIT LIST. THIS IS WHAT OUR CURRENT STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT RECOMMENDATIONS BE WILL BE THOSE LETTERS IN IN BLUE ARE ADDITIONS TO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, AND THOSE IN RED WITH THE LINE DRAWN THROUGH IT ARE TO BE REMOVED. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MOST OF THE REMOVALS ARE FOR THE ON CAMPUS. THE LAW HAS CHANGED FOR CERTAIN OFFENSES NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE ON OR OFF CAMPUS. THE STUDENT IS RECOMMENDED AS AN EXPELLED SPELLABLE OFFENSE. SO JUST A RECAP. SO WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED 20 2526 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, AS WELL AS AGREE UPON POLICY DEFINING THE SCHOOL DAY AND THE WAY INDIVIDUALS WITH AN EXCEPTION WILL BE IDENTIFIED.
AND SO HERE'S JUST A REPEAT OF WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. THE DEFINING OF THE SCHOOL DAY OPTIONS AND THE STUDENT EXPECTATION OPTIONS. EXCEPTION. YES. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE
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QUESTIONS? FIRST OF ALL, YES. I LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM. WE DON'T READ ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WHEN WE DOWNLOAD SOMETHING. AND THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WE PUT FOR SOMETHING IN THERE. FOLLOW ME. HERE IN THE PARAGRAPH WE TALK ABOUT I'M GOING BACK TO PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES, PAGE 44, IN OUR BOARD BOOK, I GUESS IT'S THE PARAGRAPH. IT TALKS ABOUT ANY TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICE THAT IS VISIBLE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, THAT IS TURNED ON IN A BACKPACK AND DISRUPTS CLASSROOM, WILL BE CONFISCATED IN THE POLICY ITSELF, WHERE WE DROP DOWN TO THAT NEXT SECTION WHERE THE BULLETS ARE, IT SAYS PARENT NOTIFICATION. CAN WE ADD TO EACH ONE OF THOSE SCHOOL CONFISCATION AND PARENT AND PARENT PICKUP AFTER SCHOOL SO THAT IT'S CLEAR BECAUSE I THINK I MEAN, I'LL GO BACK TO MY TERMS AND CONDITIONS. I NEVER READ ALL THAT WHOLE THING, AND I DON'T FOLLOW IF I GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B. SO IF WE CAN ADD SCHOOL CONFISCATION AND PARENT PARENT PICKUP ALL. YEAH. ALL THAT THERE. YEAH. OR JUST SAYING THAT THE SCHOOL WILL CONFISCATE THAT JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN THERE. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ON THE DISCIPLINE CODE CHART, WOULD THIS BE A MINOR OFFENSE MLB WHICH IS MISUSE OF CELL PHONES, ELECTRONIC DEVICE, SOCIAL MEDIA. WHERE WOULD THAT WHERE WOULD THIS FALL ON THE DISCIPLINE CHART? THE CELL PHONE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I'M SORRY, I WAS. OH, NO, YOU'RE GOOD ON THE DISCIPLINE CODE CHART. WHERE WILL THIS FALL AS A MINOR OFFENSE. MAJOR OFFENSE, MANDATORY EXPULSION. WELL, IT'S PROGRESSIVE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS MLB BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT A CONSEQUENCE. SO YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERED LEVEL ONE ON THE SECOND OFFENSE. THEN YOU HAVE ES AND OSS AS OPTIONS. SO THAT WOULD BE LEVEL TWO OFFENSE AND LEVEL THREE OFFENSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WILL THAT NEED TO BE IF WE'RE GOING IT'S PROGRESSIVE. WILL THAT BE PROGRESSIVE ON THE CHART AS WELL. JUST TO KEEP ANY PROTECTION FOR US. LIKE WELL IT SAYS IT HERE. IT SAYS IT'S MINOR OFFENSE. IF SOMEBODY COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT I WANT TO TRY TO ELIMINATE ANY REASON, SOMEONE CAN SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT LISTED. SO YOU'RE ASKING JUST TO ADD THE MLB TO EACH COLUMN, AND IT'S MAYBE A NOTE THAT SAYS PROGRESSIVE DEPENDING ON PIECES.IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT FAR AS SAYING, YOU KNOW, SECOND OFFENSE YOU GET ES FOR THREE DAYS. IS THAT UNDER MINOR OFFENSE WOULD ARE ANY OF THESE OTHER ONES ES FOR THREE DAYS. DOES THAT MATCH RIGHT. OR IS THAT UNDER THE MAJOR OFFENSE ES WOULD BE A LEVEL TWO OFFENSE.
YEAH. SO THEN THAT SHOULD BE LISTED UNDER A LEVEL TWO OFFENSE OVER HERE. THEN TWO THEN SINCE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING OVER HERE AM I IS THAT TRACKING. IS THAT MAKING SENSE AT ALL I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS. YEAH. NO I UNDERSTAND CAN I FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR YOU RIGHT HERE. OH SORRY. GO BACK ONE MORE. GO BACK TO WHERE YOU JUST WERE WITH THE PRESIDENT HAS CLARIFICATION. RIGHT THERE. YES. SO, MR. LAMBERT, YOU WANT IT TO SAY FIRST OFFENSE PHONE CONFISCATED. YEAH. JUST LIKE IN PARENT DEVICE. DEVICE CONFISCATED. JUST LIKE IT REFLECTS IN THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE, BUT ABOVE. SO DOES ADD A BULLET FROM EACH OF THOSE. IT SAYS PHONE CONFISCATED. OKAY, DEVICE OR WHATEVER. WHATEVER WE DECIDE. YES. DEVICE. GOTCHA. AND ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE CELL PHONE POLICY. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IF THERE IS A CASE OF EMERGENCY, A STUDENT CAN GO TO THE FRONT OFFICE TO MAKE THAT EMERGENCY CALL. ALL OF OUR CLASSROOMS HAVE PHONES. OUR STUDENTS ARE PERMITTED TO USE THAT. THOSE PHONES. IS THAT TEACHER DISCRETION? JUST SO IF THEN CAN THE POLICY REFLECT THAT PER TEACHER DISCRETION? I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE FRONT OFFICE TO DO IT.
YOU CAN'T USE ANY OTHER PHONE IN THE SCHOOL IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WISHES. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN, THEN LET'S SAY A STUDENT HAS AN ACCIDENT AND THEY NEED TO GO TO THE NURSE. WE'RE GOING TO USE THE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOGICAL AND WE'RE GOING TO LET THE NURSE USE THAT PHONE THERE. I DON'T WANT TO BE MARRIED TO WORDS AND A THING. AND IF WE BREAK IT, WE'RE BREAKING OUR OWN POLICY. I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR TEACHERS IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE BREAKING OUR OWN POLICY. YES, SIR. WELL, TYPICALLY, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THE CLASSROOM, THE TEACHER HAS THREE WAYS TO CONTACT THE PARENT. OFTENTIMES, TEACHERS USE THEIR OWN CELL PHONE. THEY HAVE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH PARENTS TO CALL PARENT. THEY CAN USE THEIR PHONE IN THEIR CLASSROOM OR THEY CAN EMAIL THE PARENT FROM THERE. SO THE TEACHERS HAVE DISCRETION TO USE ANY OF THOSE METHODS TO CONTACT THE PARENT ON THE SPOT IF THEY NEED TO. RIGHT. SO IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DO THAT, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY, I JUST DON'T I DON'T WANT TO PUT A POLICY OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE OUR TEACHERS BREAK OUR POLICY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO BACK TO
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THE CHART. YES, THE CODING CHART. SO JUST CLARIFY CLARIFICATION ON THAT AGAIN WOULD YOU PLEASE, SIR. SO. IF WE GO BACK TO IF SO LEAVE THIS UP HERE. BUT IF WE TALK ABOUT THE BULLETS AND THE DISCIPLINE IS GRADUATING, DEPENDING ON THE LEVELS OF CIRCUMSTANCES, I'M JUST ASKING, DOES THIS NEED TO BE REPRESENTED IN THOSE OFFENSES. SO IT STARTS OUT AS A MINOR OFFENSE. AND THEN WE HAVE IT LISTED AGAIN IN A MAJOR OFFENSE. WHEN WE GO TO THE ES.SURE. RIGHT. DOES IT NEED DOES IT NEED THAT IF WE HAVE AN ES. ARE THOSE TYPICALLY ALL ES IN THE MAJORS. NOT NECESSARILY. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT LEVEL OF OFFENSE IT IS. SO SOME MAJOR OFFENSES ALLOW YOU TO SEND A STUDENT TO THE DAP OR ALC. ARE ANY OF THE MINOR OFFENSES ES. NO. ALL LEVEL ONE OFFENSES ARE TEACHER COMMUNICATION. YOU KNOW, REDIRECTING. THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A ES OR OSS. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ES FOR THIS OFFENSE, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE IT LISTED OVER IN THE MAJOR OFFENSE SECTION AS WELL. WELL THEN WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH, BECAUSE MLB IS NOT JUST USING YOUR DEVICE TO DO A TEXT, IT'S USING IT FOR VIDEOING IN THE BATHROOM THINGS WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH. YEAH, SO BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE ISSUES. IF WE'RE SETTING THIS POLICY IN PLACE THEY SHOULDN'T. BUT WELL THEN IF THAT'S PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BREAK RULES. YEAH. IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN THEN WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE MINOR OFFENSES THAT A NEW LINE THAT IS PHONE CONFISCATED. BREAKING THE FIRST OFFENSE OR DEFENSE OKAY. THEN SECOND OFFENSE. SO THEN WE WOULD NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO MINOR AND THEN ADD SOMETHING TO MAJOR TO REFLECT WHAT OUR POLICY SAYS. BUT YEAH, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MAJOR WOULD BE YOUR FIRST OFFENSE. AND THEN SECOND. OKAY. NO YOU'RE RIGHT. SORRY. YEAH. I MEAN, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET US IN A SPOT WHERE, LIKE, THE PUNISHMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT THE CRIME. WHENEVER WE IF WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS A MAJOR OR A MINOR THAT'S LESS THAN A PHONE CONFISCATION OR ES FOR THREE DAYS. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. CAN WE JUST DENOTE IT BY. HOLD ON.
EXCUSE ME. I'M. I'M. I WAS ASKING THE SUPERINTENDENT IF HE WAS FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BECAUSE I'M. BECAUSE YOU COULD ASK ME IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING. WELL, YEAH, THAT'S. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHEN IT COMES TO. SO THE FIRST OFFENSE IS PRETTY MINOR. OBVIOUSLY YOU GET YOUR PHONE TAKEN OUT AND THE PARENT HAS TO GET IT AFTER SCHOOL. SO WHAT OTHER TYPES OF OFFENSES GO FROM THAT TO LIKE THE NEXT TIME YOU BREAK IT IT'S ES FOR THREE DAYS. COULD YOU JUST ARE THERE ANY EXAMPLES OF OTHER OFFENSES? I CAN'T I CAN'T. SO AS MR. DAVIS SAID THESE ARE PROGRESSIVE. SO IT REALLY GIVES THE PRINCIPAL OR THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL SOME DISCRETION. SO FOR INSTANCE IF A STUDENT IS LET'S SAY A STUDENT IS TALKING TOO MUCH IN CLASS, THAT'S, THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S VERY MINOR. THAT'S TALKING TOO MUCH IN CLASS. PARENT CAN SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO CALL YOUR MOM, DAD, X, Y, Z STUDENTS TALKING TOO MUCH AGAIN IN CLASS.
NOW THE ADMINISTRATOR NOW THAT'S PROGRESSIVE. NOW THE ADMINISTRATOR CAN SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU IN ES BECAUSE FIRST TIME WAS A MINOR CONSEQUENCE. THIS NEXT TIME WE'RE GOING TO PROGRESS. AND SO ALL OF THE CONSEQUENCES, ALL THE DISCIPLINE ISSUES CAN PROGRESS THAT WAY DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF TIMES YOU DO THAT SAME OFFENSE OR IF YOU HAVE PERSISTENT MISCONDUCT. SO YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE OUT. YOU'RE TALKING TOO MUCH IN CLASS. YOUR CHEWING GUM, YOU WON'T DO YOUR WORK. YOU HAVE ALL THESE ISSUES NOW THAT'S LIKE A PERSISTENT MISCONDUCT ISSUE. THEN THAT GIVES THE ADMINISTRATOR SOME AUTHORITY AND SOME AUTONOMY TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO A SUSPENSION ES OR OUT-OF-SCHOOL SUSPENSION OR EVEN A AOC PLACEMENT. AND SO THAT JUST GIVES THE ADMINISTRATOR SOME AUTONOMY AND SOME DISCRETION DEPENDING ON THE BEHAVIOR OF EACH INDIVIDUAL STUDENT. OKAY, I GOT THAT. SO THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE THIRD OFFENSE AND IT SAYS EXEMPTIONS LOST WITH SECOND OFFICE REFERRAL. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY. WHAT'S THE SECOND OFFICE REFERRAL. JUST BASICALLY THEY'RE. THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT THAT WAS BROUGHT BY. TRUSTEE BOX. WELL WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS STATE IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, LIKE MY KIDS NEVER HAD IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COMES WITH.
SO ONCE YOU ARE ASSIGNED TO S S THEN YOU LOSE YOUR EXEMPTIONS. SO I JUST WANTED EVERYTHING SPELLED OUT. SO ONCE MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T SAY WITH SECOND OFFICE REFERRAL BECAUSE I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD OFFICE REFERRAL. OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. SO THAT'S JUST IN THERE BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS IS IT'S ON IN POLICY SOMEWHERE. BUT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT THAT'S A REPERCUSSION OF JUST LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN ES, YOU DON'T GET TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR SPORTS FOR THOSE THREE DAYS WHEN YOU'RE NOT
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PARTICIPATING IN CLASS. YOU ALSO DON'T GET TO DO SPORTS. SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT. SO I WANT THEM TO SEE IT AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS OKAY. SO THEY KNOW OKAY. AND THEN FOURTH OFFENSE, THE STUDENT IS ASSIGNED TO ALC FOR TEN DAYS AND NO PARTICIPATION FOR THE SEMESTER. IS THAT AOC CURRENTLY OUR AOC POLICY? IF A STUDENT GETS INTO AOC, THEY LOSE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE SEMESTER FOR THE SEMESTER. OKAY, SO WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE VAPING, I THOUGHT MAYBE IT DIDN'T. IT SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WELL, NOW THAT IT'S NOT MANDATORY ALC, YOU'RE NOT. IT'S DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S TEN DAYS ES AND YOU'LL LOSE YOUR CURRICULARS. OKAY. FOR THOSE TEN DAYS, CAN I SAY THAT THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE VAPING POLICY, WHAT YOU PRESENTED WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS PRESENTED IN OUR BOARD BOOKS. AND I LIKE WHAT YOU PRESENTED. I THINK THAT THE CHANGES WERE THERE. THAT JUST BEING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR A STUDENT WHEN YOU ARE ASSIGNED. LIKE STUDENT, CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULARS FOR DURATION OF ES THAT'S JUST THERE SO THAT KIDS KNOW. WHAT THE. YES, MA'AM. WE JUST WANTED TO ALIGN THAT WITH THE DEVICE POLICY. NO, I LIKE IT. I JUST I WANT PEOPLE TO SEE. SO BEFOREHAND THEY CAN SEE OKAY IF THIS, IF THIS THEN THIS. SO IF YOU GO TO ALC YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY KNOW FOR THE SEMESTER NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. OKAY. TRUSTEE LAMBERT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY REAL QUICK. AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE VAPING, LET'S STAY ON THE CELL PHONE PART. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU CAN'T CODE ES OR OS UNLESS IT'S LISTED AS A MAJOR OFFENSE. AND SO IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE WAY OUR SKYWARD IS SET, THE WAY OUR SKYWARD IS LISTED, YOU CAN'T LIST YOU CAN'T CODE IT UNLESS IT'S ES. YOU CAN'T CODE ES OR OS UNLESS IT'S LISTED AS A MAJOR. SO GOING BACK TO THAT CHART, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A POINT TO EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LISTED IN THE MAJORS SO WE CAN'T CODE ES. SO WHAT THAT WILL DO THAT WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOMETHING TO BE CODED INCORRECTLY, WHICH WILL MAKE THE DATA INCORRECT. YES, SIR. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THAT IS SELF-INFLICTED. AND SO OUR MY JOB IS WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO IS THAT WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. RIGHT? SO IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN CHANGE WHAT WE DO ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW BOARD. SO OUR POLICY WILL NEED TO SET THE ADMINISTRATION UP TO WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN WHAT THEY DO. SO IN OUR POLICY, WE'LL NEED TO GO IN THERE AND SET IF CELL PHONES AND DEVICES IS A THING, THEN WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE CORRECT POLICY AND WHAT'S IN THERE CORRECTLY SO THAT THE TEAM DOCTOR EVANS AND HIS TEAM CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. RIGHT? SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THERE, THEN WE ARE SETTING THEM UP TO CODE INCORRECTLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT LISTED THERE, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE THE DATA SKEWED NEXT TIME WE GET THE REPORT. SO CAN I JUST ADD SOMETHING. SO WHEN WE START LOOKING FOR EXAMPLE LIKE NONCOMPLIANCE, YOU'LL FIND THAT ON THE MINOR OFFENSE MAJOR AND MAJOR OFFENSE WITH DISCRETIONARY. SO THAT GIVES YOU A WIDE RANGE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT UP IN SKYWARD IT GIVES YOU A WIDE RANGE OF DISCIPLINARY CONSEQUENCES. MLB CURRENTLY IS IN THE MINOR OFFENSE, BUT YOU ALSO SEE IT IN THE MANDATORY DAP OFFENSE. MLB KIND OF YOU SEE THAT. SO IT GIVES YOU THE RANGE OF ALL CONSEQUENCES BETWEEN THE MINOR OFFENSE TO UP TO DAP PLACEMENT. OKAY. SO IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THAT RANGE OF CONSEQUENCES. IT DOESN'T OR IT DOES. IT DOES, IT DOES. YEAH. SO IF A ADMINISTRATOR SAYS MLB RIGHT FIRST TIME YOU KNOW, WE JUST GIVE THE PHONE TO GET IT BACK. THEY CAN SECOND OFFENSE. THEY CAN SAY MLB. IT ALSO GIVES THAT ADMINISTRATOR THE DISCRETION TO NOT DO THE ES PLACEMENT. THAT IS WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE OUR CHART. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH.SO IF THEY CAN USE MLB EVEN AT THE END, THEY CAN STILL USE THAT SAME CODE FOR A MANDATORY PLACEMENT THAT WOULD, COULD, COULD, COULD RESULT IN AOC OR EXPULSION. SO DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION BECAUSE THE MLB AND THE MANDATORY SAYS USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO CAPTURE IMAGES, VIDEO OF CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATIONS. SO IF THEY'RE JUST GETTING IT OUT JUST TO DOOM SCROLL REPEATEDLY, THAT'S NOT USE OF TO TAKE PICTURES OR VIDEOS. SO WE WOULD NEED TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT AS LIKE COMMUNICATE AS CLEAR AS WE CAN. SO THEN WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, WELL, I WASN'T TAKING PICTURES, ANYONE IN THE BATHROOM, I WAS SITTING HERE IN GEOMETRY AND WE HAD NOTHING TO DO, SO I WAS ON MY PHONE. WELL, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MINOR
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OFFENSE, SO IT WOULD BE LISTED AS A MINOR OFFENSE. BUT IF SOMEONE WAS IN THE BATHROOM, NO, NO, YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. IF IT'S THEIR FOURTH TIME, THE DISCIPLINE IS A MAJOR OFFENSE DISCIPLINE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MINOR OFFENSE. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE TO GO UP TO THAT MANDATORY OFFENSE. SO WHEN IT GETS CODED IN SKYWARD IT'S CODED AS THAT MANDATORY OFFENSE NOT THE MINOR. SO YOU JUST WANT A NEW CATEGORY BASICALLY. YEAH. WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW CATEGORY TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT FOR EVERYTHING. THAT'S EASY ENOUGH.YEAH. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT IN AS POLICY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE THAT AS TRUSTEES.
IT'S A CHANGE OF POLICY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT. BUT ALL THAT CAN HAPPEN TONIGHT I MEAN IT'S A DULY CALLED MEETING. SO WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO TONIGHT WE'LL DOCUMENT IT AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO USING THE MLB EXAMPLE THAT'S WHERE I'M LOST BECAUSE HE JUST GAVE THAT MLB CAN BE USED AS A MINOR OFFENSE OR MAJOR OFFENSE. THE SYSTEM RECOGNIZES THAT OTHER ADMINISTRATORS WHO GO IN AND PUT IT CAN ALREADY SEE THAT WE'RE USING THE SAME THREE LETTERS, THE SAME CODING. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M FOLLOWING YOU. WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED IT WITH THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MLB USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO CAPTURE IMAGES OF VIDEO IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL AND A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE. AND I THINK IF WE HAVE THAT. YEAH, I THINK THAT IS THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO I WANT OUR VERBIAGE THAT WE'RE SAYING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MATCH THE ELECTRONIC TO CAPTURE IMAGES AND VIDEO. THAT'S I MEAN, IF A KID IS SITTING THERE ON INSTAGRAM SCROLLING AFTER THE FOURTH TIME, THEY'RE JUST BEING MAKING A POOR CHOICE. THAT OVER THERE IS LIKE, THAT'S INTENT RIGHT THERE BEHIND THAT. SO I JUST WANT OUR COMMUNICATION AND I WANT ALL OF OUR STAFF TO NOT HAVE ANY ROOM FOR MISCOMMUNICATION. AND SO WITH THIS NEW STATE LAW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR CHOICE.
WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAW AND WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY ABIDING BY THE LAW. WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE TO ENFORCE THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO AT TIMES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING IS CLEAN, CONCISE. IT'S CLEAR THAT LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S. BUT IF SOMEONE'S TAKING PICTURES OF SOMEONE IN A BATHROOM, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE SERIOUS. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CODED AS THAT. COULD WE CHANGE JUST CHANGE IN THE FIRST CATEGORY, THE MISUSE OF CELL PHONE OR WHATEVER, OR USE OF CELL PHONES, AND THEN JUST CHANGED MLB TO A DIFFERENT A NEW CODE? WELL, THAT'S THE CODE THAT WE CURRENTLY USE. WE CAN'T JUST RANDOMLY MAKE UP LETTERS. OKAY, OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE CODE THAT WE CURRENTLY USE FOR THAT. BUT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A NEW THING, WE CAN'T CREATE A NEW LINE. IS THAT, WELL, IT WOULD BE MISUSE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICE. THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN WE CAN TRUSTEE LAMBERT WE CAN. AND SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS UNDER MLB FOR A MANDATORY AND DISCRETIONARY. SO ON THE ON THE FURTHER SIDE WE CAN SAY THE USE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO CAPTURE IMAGES, VIDEO, CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATIONS AND OR USE OF JUST SIMPLE USE OF IT. WELL, BECAUSE I MEAN, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE IS CRIMINAL, THE OTHER ONE'S NOT. YES, YES. AND SO WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN DO IT. WE WILL HAVE TO.
SO MLB IS THE CODE IS THE CODE THAT THE STATE RECOGNIZES. RIGHT OKAY. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS AND I AND I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO DEFINE THAT FOR THE STAFF. AND SO WE CAN SAY ALSO BECAUSE OUR OFFICERS KNOW IF YOU USE YOUR PHONE TO RECORD SOMEONE IN THE RESTROOM. YEAH, OUR OFFICERS KNOW THAT'S A FELONY CHARGE. AND SO THE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD KNOW THAT. BUT ALSO THIS WOULD GIVE THE ADMINISTRATOR SOME DISCRETION NOT FOR THAT PIECE, BECAUSE THAT'S A MANDATORY PLACEMENT. BUT THE OTHER PIECE FOR JUST SIMPLY USING IT. THEN THE OFFICER OR ADMINISTRATOR WILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO ISSUE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE'VE OUTLINED EARLIER. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAY TATE, MY YOUNGEST IS A FRESHMAN AT RANDALL. HE'S ZONED TO TERRY. BUT BECAUSE MY WIFE'S A TEACHER, HE GOES TO RANDALL, SAY HE DECIDES I WANT TO GO TO TERRY NEXT YEAR IN HIS RECORD IS MLB, WHICH IS MISUSE OF WHATEVER. AND LIKE THAT WOULD FOLLOW HIM. SOMEONE AT TERRY WOULD NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS JUST DOOMSCROLLING I DON'T KNOW. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ONE'S A FELONY. YEAH, ONE'S A FELONY.
IT'S JUST BREAKING RULES. THE FELONIES, INVASIVE VIDEOING. THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SET OF LETTERS BASED OFF OF CODE. SO IS IT. YES. SO MLB IS NOT CORRECT. SO IF I'M VIDEOING IT WITHIN THE BATHROOM THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED INVASIVE VIDEOING. AND THAT'S THE FELONY CHARGE OFFENSE OR I MEAN THAT WOULD BE I WOULD SAY DEVICE TO CAPTURE IMAGES. SO THEY'RE VIDEOING A FIGHT IN THE HALLWAY. IT'S THEY'RE VIDEOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T BE FILMING VERSUS SCROLLING INSTAGRAM. SO WE'RE ABLE TO JUST CREATE A NEW PENAL CODE OURSELVES EVEN. OKAY. SO HOW DO WE I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH BRIAN MOORE TO SEE, BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN LETTERS THAT
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THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE. AND IF THEY'RE THERE, IF THERE ALREADY IS SOMETHING THAT EXISTS, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ALIGN THINGS TO THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE NON-COMPLIANT CAN WE CAN WE ALSO MAKE THAT PROGRESSIVE LIKE IT'S I SEE IT IN THE CURRENTLY ALREADY IS. AND AGAIN NOT COMPLIANCE JUST MEANS YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES. AND DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT, IT COULD BE JUST A MINOR OFFENSE LIKE STOP DOING THAT TO YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES. SO THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF CONSEQUENCES FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT. IT'S GOING TO BE IS IT'S GOING TO BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A NEW PENAL CODE BECAUSE WE'RE ONE DISTRICT OF OVER A THOUSAND. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS INSTRUCT OUR ADMINISTRATORS THAT WHEN IT DOES PROGRESS, WE USE THE NONCOMPLIANCE CODE VERSUS THE CODE. RIGHT. AND SO THEN THAT WAY IT'S NOT IT HAS A LESS OPPORTUNITY TO BE MISTAKEN, AS I WAS, YOU KNOW, VIDEOTAPING OR I VIDEOTAPED THE FIGHT OR I WAS VIDEOTAPING SOMEONE IN THE RESTROOM. IT'S JUST NOT COMPLIANCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE OUT YOUR PHONE AND YOU'RE JUST SCROLLING, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT HURTING ANYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO DO THAT DURING THE SCHOOL TIME. SO WE CAN DIRECT OUR ADMINISTRATORS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THAT HAPPENS AND YOU START TO PROGRESS ON DEVICES AND THEY'RE BEING NON-COMPLIANT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THEM NOT TO DO IT, AND THE STATE LAW SAYS NOT TO DO IT, THEN WE CAN USE THAT CODE TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROGRESS VERSUS USING THE CODE WHERE IS INVASIVE VIDEOING? I DON'T IS IT? I'M SORRY, IT WOULD BE. I ENVY. YES.OH OKAY. YEAH. SO THEN WE COULD USE THE MLB FOR THE FOR THE CELL PHONES. COULD WE TAKE IT MAKE IT NOT HIGHLIGHTED TO BE A FELONY SINCE WE'RE JUST REFERRING TO IT AS HAVING A CELL PHONE. YEAH, I THINK THE INVASIVE VIDEOING IS AND THEN THE MLB IN THIS THE WAY IT'S INTENDED HERE IS TO BE IF THEY'RE CAPTURING A FIGHT IN THE HALLWAY OKAY. SO THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT. BUT TO GO BACK TO WHAT DOCTOR IS SAYING IS WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NON-COMPLIANT. THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR PHONE. THEY KEEP BRINGING THEIR PHONE. IT'S NOT A MISUSE OF THE PHONE. IT'S THAT THEY'RE NON-COMPLIANT OF THE RULE IN PLACE. SO THOSE ARE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE THINGS, LIKE HAVING THE PHONE ON YOU AND ACTUALLY MISUSING THE PHONE. SO IT WOULD BE CODED. IF YOU'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE IT ON YOU, YOU'RE NON-COMPLIANT OF KEEPING IT IN YOUR BACKPACK. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THAT SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON OR THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN DO. THAT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION THAT WE WOULD BECAUSE THIS IS THE DIRECTIVE THAT WE WOULD PASS DOWN, PASS DOWN FROM MY OFFICE TO ADMINISTRATORS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL USE THE NONCOMPLIANCE PENAL CODE FOR ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
NONCOMPLIANCE, OKAY, OKAY. SO I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, WE WOULD USE THE NON THE NON VERSUS THE MLB. BECAUSE MY FEAR WOULD BE THAT WHEN WE DO START EVALUATING THIS DATA IF WE USE MLB WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KNOW. AND ESPECIALLY BEING A NEW LAW IT WOULD REALLY SKEW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY. SO WITHIN PIMAS, WOULD THEY DO IT AS NONCOMPLIANCE AND THEN BE ABLE TO IS THERE LIKE A SUBSET. NO, NO. IF YOU RECALL, THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE TRACKER THAT WE STARTED USING BECAUSE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATORS CODED THINGS DIFFERENTLY. AND SO YOU WEREN'T GETTING A TRUE FEEL OF ALL THE VIOLATIONS BECAUSE SOME WERE CODED NOT COMPLIANCE, SOME WERE CODED INSUBORDINATION, SOME WERE CODED DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO WE HAD ADMINISTRATORS SUBMIT EVERY CELL PHONE ISSUE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT CODE YOU USED INTO THE TRACKING SHEET. SO THAT GAVE US A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS WE HAD. SO TO CLARIFY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED IN THE POLICY THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IS THAT WE ADD TO EACH BULLET POINT DEVICE CONFISCATION NEXT TO THE PARENT PICKUP PORTION. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING IN THE WHAT WAS PRESENTED ABOUT USING THE ONLY GOING TO THE FRONT OFFICE FOR. EMERGENCY PHONES THAT PER TEACHER PER SCHOOL DISCRETION. IF A TEACHER DECIDES TO USE THE CLASSROOM PHONE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, NOT PIGEONHOLE THEM INTO ONLY THEM. BREAKING POLICY. SO DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A MOTION? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. OKAY, SO I OFFICIALLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THOSE LINES TO THE BULLET POINTS LISTING UNDER THE OFFENSES AND TO ADJUST THE POLICY REGARDING EMERGENCY PHONES FOR TEACHERS AND SITTING INSTEAD OF IN LIEU OF SENDING THEM TO THE FRONT OFFICE. THE TEACHER HAS THE DISCRETION TO USE THEIR OWN CLASSROOM PHONE OR
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NURSE'S PHONE. OKAY, MISS JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE YOU GOT THAT? I WILL OKAY, OKAY. YEAH, WE DO, WE DO. OKAY. YEAH. DOCTOR WAITS IS GETTING IT TOO. SO TRUSTEE LAMBERT MAKES THAT MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. TRUSTEE MASTERS SECONDS. I'LL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. OH. I'M SORRY, WE NEED COMMENTS. YES. DISCUSSION. MY ONLY COMMENT IS I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE POLICY WE'RE ABOUT TO APPROVE OVERALL. SO AS LONG AS WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, I'M OKAY WITH VOTING ON THIS PIECE. GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO NOW I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. HI. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION. MR. NAVA, CAN YOU? REGARDING THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL DAY, CAN YOU? I GUESS YOU HAVE THAT ON THE SCREEN. I SEE THE TWO OPTIONS OF WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING US TO CLARIFY. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO IF WE APPROVE. IF WE APPROVE THE IF WE APPROVE THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M LEANING TOWARDS, WE COULD ALSO THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE CAMPUS PRINCIPAL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WHEN A KID STEPS ON THE CAMPUS IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE FIRST BELL RINGS, WHETHER A DEVICE COULD BE USED OR NOT. CORRECT. BECAUSE I WAS JUST HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN A HOUSEHOLD IN THIS DISTRICT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AND THE MOM WAS SAYING ONE THING, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT WAS SAYING ANOTHER THING, AND THEY WERE TALKING PAST EACH OTHER. THE STUDENT WAS TRYING TO SAY, I CAN USE MY DEVICE AT SCHOOL UNTIL THE BELL RINGS. AND THE MOM WAS SAYING, NO, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR DEVICE AT SCHOOL. AND SO I'M GLAD WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WHAT THE CHOICE IS WHEN THEY STEP ON THE CAMPUS IN THE MORNING UNTIL THE LAST BELL OF THE END OF THE DAY, NO PHONES OR NO PERSONAL DEVICES, OR THEY COULD USE IT IN THE MORNING IF THEY'RE SITTING IN THE CAFETERIA OR THE GYM. BUT WHEN THAT FIRST BELL RINGS, THEY COULD NOT USE IT. CORRECT. THAT'S THE DISTINCTION WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HERE. YES, SIR. THAT IS I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO ALL MY PRINCIPALS WATCHING ALSO. SO I'M GOING TO REMOVE THAT DISCRETION FROM THE CAMPUS PRINCIPALS THAT IF, WHEN THE IF THE BOARD DECIDES WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES IS WHAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO DO BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE UNIFORMED IN THAT, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS A PARENT TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, AT HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE DOING THIS AT WELCH HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE DOING THAT. AND SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO FOLLOW THAT POLICY. AND SO THAT THAT'S HAPPENING NOW, I'M SURE THAT IS BECAUSE I HAVE SOME CAMPUSES THAT SAY, WHEN THE BELL RINGS, SOME CAMPUSES SAY WHEN YOU COME ON CAMPUS, BUT WE WANT TO BE UNIFORMED IN THIS BECAUSE THIS, THIS, THIS CAN CREATE SOME DISSENSION IN OUR DISTRICT. SO I WANT TO BE UNIFORM IN THIS. WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS I DON'T LIKE TAKING AWAY KIDS USING PHONES IN THE MORNING IS THEY'RE SITTING AROUND POTENTIALLY IS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY. SO WHAT WE'RE ALSO SAYING IS WHEN THAT LAST BELL RINGS, A KID CAN GET OUT OF HIS DEVICE AND POTENTIALLY TEXT OR COMMUNICATE WITH HIS PARENT OR HIS BUDDY OR WHATEVER. WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO PREVENT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY ON CAMPUS, WHY WOULDN'T WE PREVENT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHILE ON CAMPUS? SO IN MY MIND, I LIKE THE SECOND OPTION HERE. WELL, I'LL JUST SPEAK. I, I PREFER THE FIRST OPTION BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT DO THAT ALREADY. AND IT REALLY, I THINK, SETS THE TONE FOR THE DAY. IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE KIDS WALKING THROUGH THE HALLWAYS, WATCHING MOVIES, HAVING THEIR EARBUDS IN, AND THEN THEY GO TO FIRST PERIOD AND THEIR TEACHER HAS TO SAY, PUT AWAY THE PHONES, PUT AWAY THE PHONES. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT SETS THE WRONG PRECEDENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF YOUR DAY, TO START YOUR DAY AND TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND THEN THE REASON WHY WE DO HAVE IT FOR THE END OF THE DAY IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. BECAUSE THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH FRIENDS OR I MEAN, FOR RIDES OR WHATEVER REASON, AND THEY'VE HAD IT PUT AWAY FOR THE DAY. AND SO WHEN THAT BELL RINGS, I THINK IT'S FAIR ENOUGH TO SAY, OKAY, GET IT OUT. PARENTS NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH KIDS. CARPOOL NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE WITH KIDS. SO THAT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT ON THAT. I, I LIKE THE FIRST ONE AS WELL, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF ONTO THE CAMPUS, WE COULD SAY INTO INTO THE CAMPUS BUILDING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF MATHERS GETS THE HE'S DRIVING, HE DRIVES TO SCHOOL AND HE GETS THERE AND HE WANTS TO TEXT ME SOMETHING. I DON'T WANT TO BE POLICING THE HAVE A STAFF OUT THERE SAYING, GET OFF YOUR PHONE. YOU'RE WALKING UP TO THE DOOR. SO I WOULD THINK I WOULD LIKE THAT TO SAY INTO THE CAMPUS BUILDING TO THE LAST INSTRUCTIONAL BELL. IF, IF, IF I MAY, IN OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE PRINCIPALS, THE REASON WHY MY CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS. SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE TO THAT[01:20:09]
WOULD BE ALL YOUR STUDENTS ARE STANDING OUTSIDE AND USING THEIR DEVICES. AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS TO GO OUTSIDE AND POLICE STUDENTS AS THEY'RE STANDING OUTSIDE AND THEY SAY, WELL, I'M NOT IN THE BUILDING SO I CAN USE MY PHONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PUSH STUDENTS IN. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT OUR ADMINISTRATORS TALKED ABOUT FOR DOING THAT. WELL, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE BY TERRY WHEN I TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL TO GRAY, AND THERE'S PEOPLE OUTSIDE, TERRY, HANGING OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEIR PARENTS HAVE TO DROP THEM OFF AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING, EVEN THOUGH THE DOORS DON'T OPEN TILL WHENEVER THE DOORS OPEN. SO WE'RE SAYING IF A IF A STUDENT IS DROPPED OFF AT, I MEAN, LITERALLY EVERY DAY, IT WAS EVERY DAY LAST YEAR AND EVERY DAY SO FAR THESE PAST TWO DAYS, THERE'S BEEN KIDS OUT THERE WAITING FOR THE DOORS TO OPEN. SO WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, YOU'RE OUT THERE BY YOURSELF, YOU CAN'T BE ON YOUR PHONE. WE'RE GOING TO PUNISH THEM FOR THAT. THAT'S WHY NUMBER TWO MAKES SENSE. RIGHT. AND THESE ARE JUST TWO OPTIONS. AGAIN THESE ARE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING. BUT THE BOARD THIS IS A BOARD POLICY. THE BOARD CAN DECIDE YOU KNOW WHAT. INSTEAD OF DOING EITHER OF THESE TWO WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE BOARD CAN SAY THERE'S A CERTAIN TIME YOU KNOW. SO ON SCHOOL OFF SCHOOL, ON SCHOOL IN THE BUILDING OR OUT OF THE BUILDING, THE BOARD CAN SAY AT, YOU KNOW, EITHER SAY 8:00 RIGHT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT AND DISMISSAL. RIGHT. PERSONAL DEVICES OUGHT TO BE PUT AWAY, YOU KNOW, SO THE BOARD CAN THE BOARD CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT. AND I WAS AT TERRY YESTERDAY FOR THE FOR THE FIRST DAY. AND THE KIDS WERE BEAUTIFULLY WALKING IN THROUGH OUR SECURITY SYSTEMS. AND AS THEY WERE WALKING IN THROUGH THOSE DOORS, THROUGH THOSE SECURITY SYSTEMS, THEY WERE JUST DOING IT WITHOUT ANY ISSUE AT ALL. SO THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT THAT'S THE POINT. WHEN YOU ENTER THERE, YOU'RE GOING INTO YOUR THEY'RE GOING TO WORK JUST LIKE WE GO TO WORK. DO WE ALSO NEED TO DEFINE SCHOOL BUSSES? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR PHONES ON THE BUS? WELL, IT TALKS ABOUT THE INSTRUCTIONAL DAY. THE BUSSES, NOT THE INSTRUCTIONAL DAY UNLESS THEY'RE ON A FIELD TRIP. CORRECT? OKAY. SO THE FIELD TRIP. SO IF THEY'RE GOING FROM HERE TO LONGACRES RANCH, AM I ALLOWED TO HAVE MY PERSONAL DEVICE? YOU KNOW, TEACHERS WILL BE ON THAT WITH THE FIELD TRIP. I WILL SAY MORNING ROUTE AND AFTER SCHOOL ROUTE. YOU JUST HAVE YOUR BUS DRIVER AND MAYBE A MONITOR, BUT REALLY, IT'S JUST THE BUS DRIVER. AND THE BUS DRIVER IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT. CORRECT? OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THE T. THEY JUST ADVISE THAT YOU CREATE POLICY DEFINING WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN USE THEM ON THE BUSSES. I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD NOT USE IT ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, MISSED THEIR BUS AND IT SNOWBALLED FROM THERE. SO. GO AHEAD. WOULD THAT BE IN OUR BUS POLICY? LIKE WOULD WE WOULD THAT BE I KNOW WE HAVE POLICY FOR BEHAVIOR ON BUSSES. NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THERE. BUT CELL PHONE POLICY CURRENTLY IS NOT PART OF THAT. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO INCLUDE SOMETHING IN THE CELL PHONE POLICY. YES. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES SIR. OKAY. SO MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS ON THE RANDALL ROYAL'S DANCE TEAM. AND ALL WEEK I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT HOW EARLY SHE HAS TO GET TO CAMPUS TO PRACTICE. AND SO IF SHE ARRIVES AT CAMPUS AT, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY WE APPROVED OPTION ONE AND SHE HAS TO ARRIVE TO CAMPUS AT ABOUT 6:00 IN THE MORNING. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO ARRIVE 6:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO PRACTICE. OTHER TIMES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TRAVEL, AND THAT IF WE APPROVED OPTION ONE, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT SHE OR HER TEAMMATES COULD USE THEIR CAMPUS OR THEIR THEIR CELL PHONE. AND SO LET'S SAY THERE'S A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY THEY CANNOT USE THAT CELL PHONE. AND LET'S SAY THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A COACH AROUND OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THEN THEN THEY WOULD BE VIOLATING OUR POLICY IF THEY USE THEIR CELL PHONE AND I AND IT'S NOT JUST THE DANCE TEAM. I MEAN, I'M SURE WE HAVE A LOT OF EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES WHERE THEY HAVE TO ARRIVE ON CAMPUS A LOT EARLIER THAN WHAT WE MAY REALIZE. SO WHILE I FULLY RESPECT TRUSTEE BERKSHIRE POINT, I TEACH AND I LOVE IT WHEN MY STUDENTS ARE NOT ON THEIR PHONE. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S I TEACH IN COLLEGE, SO. I'VE USUALLY HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH THEM ON THE FIRST DAY. NOT TO NOT TO BE ON THEIR CELL PHONE, TO PUT THAT AWAY. BY THE TIME I'M GOING TO BEGIN MY LECTURE, I FULLY RESPECT WHY YOU'RE SAYING THIS AND AGREE WITH YOU, BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND FOR THE SECURITY OF ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO HAVE TO ARRIVE ON CAMPUS TO PRACTICE FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING, THEIR SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT TO ME.[01:25:01]
THAT'S WHY I WOULD LEAN TOWARD BELL TO BELL. YOU KNOW, IF WE STAY WITH WITH THESE TWO PARTICULAR POLICIES, COULD WE? YOU SAID WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT. SO COULD WE DEFINE THE SCHOOL DAY AS TEN MINUTES BEFORE THE BELL RINGS TO THE LAST INSTRUCTIONAL BELL? THAT WAY YOU'RE PROHIBITING KIDS FROM HANGING OUT ALL MORNING AND LAST MINUTE RUNNING INTO SCHOOL, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I SUGGEST. IF WE I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO IN THERE AND DEFINE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT MIDDLE SCHOOL STARTING AT ALMOST NOON. NOW, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE JOKINGLY. BUT SO IF WE GO AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN DOORS OPEN, THE TYPICAL DOORS OPEN TIME. I WAS GOING TO SAY I WOULD, I'D GO FOR FIVE MINUTES. BUT IF FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE FIRST INSTRUCTION BELL RINGS, I COULD GO TEN. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, JUST TO MAKE IT UNANIMOUS. BUT WHEN THE DOOR IS OPEN, SOMETIMES THAT'S 30 MINUTES, SOMETIMES THAT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR MY TASTES. SO EFFECTIVELY WE WOULD BE SAYING FOR HIGH SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, PHONES AWAY BY 815, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING OR NOT IS IN PRACTICE. YEAH. IF WE GO TO TEN MINUTES, RIGHT. YES. I THINK THAT COULD POTENTIALLY JUST GET TOO CONFUSING INTO LIKE, OKAY, MY CLOCK SAYS THIS ONE TIME AND THAT CLOCK SAYS ANOTHER TIME, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WORD MICROMANAGING TIME ON THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT LIKE, SO I JUST HOW HOW ELSE DO WE TO MR. ARROYO'S POINT, THE KIDS WHO ARE GOING I'M NOT. YEAH. I DROPPED IT OFF AT FOR CROSS COUNTRY AT 630. AND HE'S TYPICALLY RUNNING WITH HIS MUSIC AND HIS AIRPODS.AND SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST WHENEVER I MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHEN DOORS OPEN, WHEN DOORS OPEN, WHENEVER A STUDENT GOES IN FOR DOORS OPEN FOR THE GENERAL, IF THEY'RE THERE FOR PRACTICE, THEN WE'RE GETTING INTO WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR FOOTBALL TEAMS THAT ARE DRIVING TO BRYAN COLLEGE STATION FOR A FOOTBALL GAME, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR PHONE WHEN YOU'RE ON A SCHOOL BUS OR A CHARTER BUS FOR 2.5 HOURS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN DOORS OPEN FOR THESE CAMPUSES, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IF A SCHOOL STARTS AT 745, THAT DOOR OPENS AT 715 WHEN THEY ENTER IN FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, IF THEY'RE THERE FOR EXTRACURRICULARS, THAT'S DIFFERENT. IF IT'S AT 630 IN THE MORNING. SO A QUICK QUESTION. MY CONCERN IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT AS ADMINISTRATIVELY FEASIBLE FOR STAFF. YOU KNOW, THE LESS THAT STAFF HAS TO POLICE STUDENTS, THE MORE THEY CAN FOCUS ON INSTRUCTION. THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS. SO, DOCTOR NIVENS, WHAT IS MOST ADMINISTRATIVELY FEASIBLE? IS IT BELL TO BELL IS THAT IS OTHERWISE I WOULD THINK THAT THAT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF. MISINTERPRETATION PERHAPS. OR LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. YES, SIR. I WELL, I CAN SPEAK FOR ROOSEVELT. AS YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL NIVENS BELL TO BELL WOULD BE BEST FOR ME AS A PRACTICE BECAUSE THAT GIVES EVERYBODY A CLEAR SIGNAL. YES. WHEN IT GOES AWAY AND EVERYBODY CLEAR SIGNAL WHEN YOU CAN PULL IT OUT OF YOUR POCKET. MAKES SENSE. OKAY. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MOTIONS. OKAY. SO A SCHOOL DAY IS DEFINED FROM THE TIME OF THE FIRST INSTRUCTIONAL BELL TO THE LAST. BUT WE ARE SAYING THAT KIDS WHO ARE THERE FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES CAN HAVE IT. YES, MA'AM. SO. SO IN TRUSTEE AURORA'S CASE, YES. WHEN HIS GRANDDAUGHTER ARRIVES TO THE CAMPUS AT 5 A.M, I KNOW, I THINK TOMAS HAD A PRACTICE AT 431 MORNING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT IF YOU WANT TO PLAY FOOTBALL? LET'S GO GET IT, YOU KNOW? BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT UNTIL THE FIRST BELL TO START SCHOOL. WHEN THAT FIRST BELL STARTS SCHOOL, THEN ALL DEVICES GO AWAY OR PUT AWAY. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU CAN USE THEM. I THINK WE'RE SETTING UP MORE PAIN AND SETTING UP FOR FAILURE. IF WE SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN JUST COME IN AND SIT IN THE HALLWAY AND BE ON YOUR PHONE OR IN THE CAFETERIA. I MEAN, IF WE'RE HAVING THEM WALK THROUGH THE SAFETY SECURITY SYSTEMS AND WE'RE SAYING, PUT YOUR PHONE IN YOUR BACKPACK WHEN YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH THAT SAFETY SECURITY SYSTEM, THEN I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE BEST, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THAT'S MIXED SIGNALS. OKAY. PUT IT IN YOUR BAG. THEN I THINK IT'S YOU START I DON'T KNOW, I JUST IN TALKING TO MY WIFE WHO'S A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER IN THE PAST TWO DAYS BEFORE SCHOOL HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC BECAUSE THEY'VE COME IN WITH NO PHONES OUT. AND I WAS I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
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THINGS SAYING BELL TO BELL. BUT THE MORE I THOUGHT AND THE MORE I READ AND THE MORE I LISTENED, I THINK IF WE START, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN, BUT THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AND LIKE TO YOUR DAUGHTER AND MY SON, IF THERE'S NO COACH AROUND AND HE'S OUT THERE RUNNING AND HE SEES SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EMERGENCY. WE'RE SAYING IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU KIDS YOU CAN'T USE YOUR PHONE. IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, IF SOMEBODY FALLS OVER, WE'RE NOT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE. I THINK WE'RE SETTING OUR STAFF, OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND EVERYONE IN FAILURE. IF WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW IT HERE, BUT THEN TAKE IT AWAY HERE ADDS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE NON-COMPLIANT. OKAY. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PAUSE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. AND I WANT THAT TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD. SO MISS JOHNSON, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE LAMAR CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROPRIATELY AND EFFECTIVELY FULFILL ITS GOVERNANCE ROLE IN ACCORDANCE TO BEST PRACTICES FOR QUALITY ORGANIZATIONS AND TO THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE? TRUSTEES ALSO DESIRE TO AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD MUST HAVE COMPLETED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION CARD AND SUBMITTED IT BEFORE THE PRESIDING OFFICER CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING POSTED AGENDA ITEMS. PUBLIC COMMENT ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARDING NON-AGENDA ITEMS. TRUSTEES MAY NOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AS THEY ARE PROHIBITED BY LAW FROM DISCUSSING OR DECIDING ANY SUBJECT THAT IS NOT ON THE BOARD'S PUBLICLY NOTICED AGENDA. ALL PATRONS DESIRING TO SPEAK AND WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PUBLIC COMMENT FORM WILL BE HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PORTION OF THE MEETING BEFORE FINAL BOARD ACTION IS TAKEN ON AN AGENDA TOPIC. WHILE SPEAKERS GENERALLY HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY ESTABLISH AN OVERALL TIME LIMIT FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND ADJUST THE TIME ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER WHEN NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. HOWEVER, NO SPEAKERS SHALL BE GIVEN LESS THAN ONE MINUTE. ALL OF THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH HB 2840. EACH SPEAKER TONIGHT WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. EACH SPEAKER MUST ADDRESS THE BOARD FROM THE PROVIDED PODIUM, UNLESS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED AND APPROVED. SPEAKERS ARE TO PRESENT THEIR REMARKS TO THE BOARD AND NOT TO THE AUDIENCE. SPEAKERS HAVING COMPLAINTS AGAINST INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE BOARD AFTER FILING A COMPLAINT FORM AND IN THE MANNER PROVIDED FOR IN BOARD POLICY.DBA EMPLOYEE COMPLAINTS F AND G STUDENT AND PARENT COMPLAINTS, AND GF PUBLIC COMPLAINTS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR DESIGNEE SHALL DETERMINE WHETHER THE SPEAKER HAS FILED A COMPLAINT.
ACCORDING TO POLICY, ANY SPEAKERS WHO COMPLAIN OF INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MAY BE DIRECTED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO REFRAIN FROM NAMING THE EMPLOYEE, AND WILL REFER THE SPEAKER TO THE APPROPRIATE COMPLAINT POLICY. SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS ARE MEETINGS HELD IN PUBLIC BUT ARE NOT PUBLIC MEETINGS. WHILE THE BOARD VALUES HEARING FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, TRUSTEES WILL NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS OR RESPOND TO COMMENTS FROM PATRONS, SPEAKERS WILL NOT ENGAGE IN DIALOG WITH THE TRUSTEES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU COME FORWARD. OUR SPEAKER TONIGHT IS BETTY BRAUN. THANK YOU. I AM BETTY BROWN. I AM THE MOTHER OF A SOPHOMORE AT GEORGE RANCH HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE IMPACT OF HOUSE BILL 1481 AND HOW IT'S HAVING AN IMPACT ON OUR STUDENTS ABILITY TO LEARN AND SUCCEED. AS YOU KNOW, A MAJORITY OF SCHOOL OF SCHOOLWORK IS ONLINE, AND WITH THE NEW LAW, IT KEEPS STUDENTS FROM BEING ABLE TO DO IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
MOST OF THE SCHOOL PROVIDED LAPTOPS ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THE ONES THAT KIDS ARE BRINGING FROM HOME, HAVING TO SIGN IN TO A NEW LAPTOP EACH TIME, AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH LAPTOPS THAT ARE NOT CHARGED TAKES AWAY FROM THE TIME THAT STUDENTS COULD BE DOING ACTUAL SCHOOL WORK. ON TOP OF THIS, NOT EVERY CLASS HAS ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY WHILE STILL HAVING WORK TO WORK FOR THE CHILDREN TO DO ONLINE. ALL OF THIS CONTRIBUTES TO AN INCREASE OF HOMEWORK THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE TOO MUCH FOR MANY STUDENTS TO DEAL WITH. UNFORTUNATELY, HOUSE BILL 1481 PROHIBITS STUDENTS
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FROM USING THEIR PERSONAL DEVICES IN CLASS, AND LAMAR CONSOLIDATED DOES NOT HAVE FUNDING TO PROVIDE EVERY STUDENT WITH A DISTRICT ISSUED DEVICE. AS A RESULT, MANY STUDENTS ARE LEFT WITHOUT CONSISTENT ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY ESSENTIAL FOR COMPLETING ASSIGNMENTS, TAKING NOTES, AND FULLY ENGAGING IN THEIR EDUCATION. WHILE THE BILL'S INTENTION MAY BE TO REDUCE DISTRACTIONS, THE REALITY IS IT IS UNINTENTIONALLY HARMING STUDENTS WHO ARE FOCUSED AND DETERMINED TO SUCCEED. AND THESE STUDENTS WORK HARD EVERY DAY. I DO REALIZE THIS IS A LAW AND NOT SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON, BUT I WANT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU, AS A BOARD, CAN ADVOCATE FOR OUR CHILDREN BETTER. I URGE THE BOARD TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR CHILDREN SO THAT THEY CAN BRING PERSONAL DEVICES TO SCHOOL, OR GET STATE FUNDING FOR LAMAR ISD, SO THAT OUR CHILDREN DO HAVE COMPUTERS TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR SCHOOLWORK. OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES DEPEND ON HAVING THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO THRIVE, AND WE NEED TO HELP ENSURE THAT KIDS AND ALL THE SCHOOLS IN LCISD AND ACROSS THE DISTRICT ARE NOT LEFT BEHIND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.OKAY, I WANT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION. SORRY. I'M STILL ON. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO DEFINE THE SCHOOL DAY. SO WE'LL CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION. BUT I DO ACTUALLY THINK THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ADDS A GOOD POINT THAT IF WE HAVE KIDS WHO ARE YOU KNOW, I GOT TO READING ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL AT 8:00. IT DOESN'T START TILL 905, BUT MY DAUGHTER HAD TO BE THERE AT 8:00 AND THERE WERE KIDS. YOU COULDN'T GET IN UNTIL 830, BUT THERE WERE KIDS ALREADY OUT THERE SITTING, WAITING, AND I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IF THEY WERE ON THEIR PHONES OR NOT. BUT I FEEL LIKE IF A KID HAS HOMEWORK AND THEY'RE GETTING DROPPED OFF THAT EARLY, TO SAY THEY CAN'T BE ON THEIR PHONE DOING THAT, AND WE ALSO CAN'T PROVIDE THEM A COMPUTER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US, AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT A 1 TO 1 DISTRICT. SO WITH THAT, AND I AND I UNDERSTAND, LIKE I KNOW AT TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, IT WORKS LIKE YOU DON'T. IT'S A WAY FOR THE DAY. AND I KNOW THAT THAT WORKS. BUT I LEAN MORE TOWARDS AT LEAST SAYING TEN MINUTES BEFORE THE FIRST BELL TO THE LAST BELL AS THE SCHOOL DAY. YES. AND SO, TRUSTEES, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, IF, IF, IF YOU IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO SAYS TEN MINUTES BEFORE THE FIRST BELL, WE CAN ADD A BELL TO THE TO THE SCHOOL AND THEN STUDENTS CAN UNDERSTAND, WE CAN TRAIN STUDENTS ON THIS BELL THAT RINGS AT THIS TIME MEANS PUT YOUR DEVICES AWAY. I MEAN, SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THROUGH US OR BE WORRIED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO, WE WILL IMPLEMENT IT. IT'S LIKE PAVLOV'S PAVLOV'S DOG. IT'S LIKE WE RING A BELL, THEY GET A TREAT. I DON'T THAT THAT I MEAN, I THINK WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT, I PROMISE. I THINK WHEN DOORS OPEN FOR THE GENERAL ED STUDENTS TO WALK IN MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN START THIS, BUT NOW PUT IT AWAY.
AND I MEAN, FOR IN THE MIND OF A CHILD, WHERE THAT PREFRONTAL CORTEX IS NOT FORMED LIKE OURS HAS, I THINK WE SAY WHEN THE DOORS, WHEN THE DOORS OPEN AND YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH THOSE DOORS TO ATTEND SCHOOL, THEN IF YOU'RE SITTING OUTSIDE, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE WAITING AND THE DOORS AREN'T OPEN YET. WE HAVE STUDENTS. I MEAN, WE SEE IT EVERY DAY. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THAT DOOR, IT'S YOU'RE STARTING SCHOOL. THEN I THINK I'M I WILL BE ADVOCATING FOR THAT. I CAN ALSO SAY I THINK, TOO, IF WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF KIDS OUTSIDE, I'M SURE IT'S TIME TO COME IN. NEED TO COME IN. IF YOU HAVE A MY SON SHOWS UP AT SCHOOL AT, YOU KNOW, 545 AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, IF HE NEEDED TO CONTACT ME, WELL, HE CAN GO OUTSIDE, HE CAN GO TO HIS CAR. OR I MEAN, IF HE REALLY NEEDS TO SEND A TEXT THAT BAD OR CALL ME. AND IF HE HAS CAN'T USE THE COACH'S PHONE, I MEAN, HE CAN USE A COACH PHONE, I'M SURE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK I DO. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE SCHOOLS WHO DO IT THIS WAY. PHONES AWAY BEFORE YOU WALK IN THE DOOR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SET THE TONE FOR THE DAY, AND THEN WE MAKE THIS POLICY, AND THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE HOW THE SCHOOLS ALREADY FUNCTION, AND THEY FUNCTION AND THEY RUN VERY SMOOTHLY. AND THEY HAVE FOR THE LAST YEAR. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU WENT TO TERRY, IT WENT SMOOTHLY. WHY? BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN DOING IT THAT WAY FOR A WHOLE YEAR AND IT WORKS. AND I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, DO WE ARE WE OKAY WITH THE WORDING OF WHEN A STUDENT STEPS INTO THE CAMPUS UNTIL THE
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LAST INSTRUCTIONAL BELL. YEAH, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DOORS OPEN. SO I LIKE THE WORD INTO CAMPUS. BUT WHEN THAT YEAH, I KNOW I THINK DOORS OPEN AT RANDOM AT 745 I BELIEVE. SO AT SOME 40 WHEN THE DOORS OPEN FOR THE LET'S START OUR DAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS, WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION A MOTION? YES, PLEASE. I MAKE A MOTION UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. MR. ROYCE, I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT. WE DEFINE THE SCHOOL DAY FROM WHEN THE TIME STUDENT STEPS INTO THE CAMPUS TO THE LAST INSTRUCTIONAL BILL. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ARROYO? SECONDS. I WILL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE.SORRY. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. NO, LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. IF THIS FAILS, I GOT A MOTION TO MAKE.
OKAY. I NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE DISCUSS. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION RIGHT ABOUT OTHER PARTS OF THIS OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR THAT? MIKE I DO WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT PERSONAL LAPTOPS. AND IT MIGHT BE BETTER ADDRESSED TO DOCTOR JONES. I'M NOT SURE, BUT SURE I HAD A YOU CAN STAY RIGHT THERE TOO, SIR. THERE WAS A THERE WAS A PARENT THAT EMAILED ME. AND ASKED WHY WE CAN'T SIMILAR TO THE COMMENT THAT WE JUST HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT SAYING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A ONE ON ONE DISTRICT. AND THEY GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHAT IF LIKE STUDENTS TAKING A TEST AND THEY FINISH THE TEST ON THE SCHOOL ISSUED DEVICE AND THEY HAVE FREE TIME FOR THE REST OF THE PERIOD, WHY COULDN'T THEY GET THEIR PERSONAL LAPTOP OUT TO BEGIN WORKING ON HOMEWORK? THEY GAVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER DISTRICT IN THE STATE THAT DOES ALLOW IT. ONE OF THE CRITERIA OF THAT IS FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT OF THAT DISTRICT HAS TO CONFIRM THAT THOSE LAPTOPS DO NOT HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION DEVICES WITH THE INTERNET, DOES NOT CONNECT OUTSIDE OF THE WI-FI SYSTEM OF THE SCHOOL. IT SEEMS VERY COMPLICATED FOR A DISTRICT OF 49,000 STUDENTS, AND WE'RE GROWING ALL THE TIME. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE NOT QUITE A TRUE 1 TO 1 DISTRICT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE BOND IN A FEW MINUTES. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE REASONS ARE FOR NOT BEING ALLOWING PERSONAL LAPTOPS FOR INSTRUCTION TIME IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT? YES, SIR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IN THE LAW IS THE DISCUSSION OF YOU CANNOT USE A DEVICE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION, THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS, AND IF YOU HAVE A DEVICE THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE TELECOMMUNICATION PIECE HAPPEN.
WE CAN DO OUR VERY BEST TO FILTER AND BLOCK INSIDE OF OUR NETWORK AS BEST WE CAN, BUT IT IS. IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO BLOCK THAT INSIDE OF FOR EVERY SINGLE DEVICE THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET. SO IT'S THAT PART THAT THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO ALLOW A PERSONAL DEVICE LIKE THAT. SO UNTIL UNTIL WE ARE A TRUE 1 TO 1 DISTRICT, I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN THIS BOARD ROOM, YOU WERE SAYING WE'RE VERY CLOSE. YES, SIR. AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE THERE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF OUR GROWTH WITHOUT A BOND ALLOWING.
IS THAT CORRECT THIS YEAR? YES, SIR. AND SO ON A PRACTICAL BASIS, YOU'RE SAYING WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE 1 TO 1. WHEN A TEACHER NEEDS A BANK OF LAPTOPS. IS THAT RIGHT ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT? YES, SIR. AND WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON PLANS OF HOW WE CAN WE REALLOCATE TO, TO MEET THE NEEDS. BUT AT AN INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS, IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THAT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING INSTRUCTION AND TECHNOLOGY. AND AGAIN, IT'S DAY TWO, AND MY SON AND I HAVE NOT FULLY COMMUNICATED BECAUSE HE'S MY SON. DUAL CREDIT TWO FACTOR AUTHORIZATION TO LOGIN TO COLLEGE SYSTEMS. CAN WE ENLIGHTEN ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK WITHOUT THAT? THAT IS THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY BE IN CONVERSATION WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COLLEGE APPLICATION PROCESS. WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK WITH THE LAW? SO WE WOULD BE INVESTIGATING THAT. I'M ALSO GOING TO ASK MISS BANKS TO COME TO THE PODIUM, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH OUR WHAT. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, MR. BANKS. YES. SO OUR DUAL CREDIT PARTNER IS LONE STAR COLLEGE. AND OUR DUAL CREDIT KIDDOS ENGAGE IN THEIR DUAL
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CREDIT COURSES VIA D2L, WHICH IS THE CHAD. WHAT'S THE LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? THERE YOU GO.THE LMS. THE LMS DOES NOT REQUIRE THE MULTI-FACTOR AUTHENTICATOR, SO OUR STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO LOG IN WITHOUT NEEDING A CELL PHONE TO BE TO TEXT THE CODE AND ALL OF THAT.
SO. SO MY SON WAS INCORRECT. HE WAS. YES. THANK YOU. BUT BUT WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, CAN YOU ALSO TALK THROUGH THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD? BECAUSE I. I ASKED THE TEAM TO TALK TO LONE STAR ABOUT THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THIS LAW IS IN PLACE. AND SO NOW WE INSTRUCTION MAY NEED TO CHANGE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH THE BEST ENVIRONMENT POSSIBLE. RIGHT. SO WE DID TALK TO A LONE STAR COLLEGE LOOKING AT TALKING TO THEIR CHANCELLOR AND THEIR DEAN OF ACADEMIC SERVICES ABOUT THE CHANGE IN LAW. AND OF COURSE, WE ARE NOT THEIR ONLY DUAL CREDIT PARTNER. AND SO THEY KNOW THAT THIS AFFECTS AFFECTS ALL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH WHICH THEY PARTNER. AND SO LONE STAR COLLEGE IS WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE EXTENDED SERVICES, LIKE THEIR LIBRARY RESEARCH. THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF, OF THE OF THE DUAL CREDIT EXPERIENCE THAT COULD ALLOW A STUDENT TO ACCESS A SUPPORT SERVICE WHERE AN MFA OR MULTI-FACTOR AUTHENTICATOR IS NECESSARY. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE LIBRARY SERVICES SOMETIMES ELEMENTS OF RESEARCH DO REQUIRE THAT THAT THAT LEVEL OR THAT DEGREE OF SECURITY. AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, AGAIN, JUST IN CONVERSATION WITH LONE STAR COLLEGE, THEY ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO BREAK THOSE BARRIERS, YOU KNOW, IN IN LIGHT OF THE CHANGE IN LAW. SO IT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. BUT AGAIN, FOR THE CURRENT STATE OF THINGS, A STUDENT CAN FULLY ENGAGE IN THEIR DUAL CREDIT COURSE WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A SECONDARY OR PERSONAL DEVICE. SO FOR THE MFS, CAN THEY NOT USE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THEY COULD USE? ABSOLUTELY. SO EVEN IF THEY IF IT DID REQUIRE IT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST USE THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS INSTEAD OF A TEXT. ABSOLUTELY. TO GET THE CODE OKAY. THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO THE BRING YOUR OWN DEVICE. SO THE OFFICIAL GUIDANCE FROM THE T THAT THEY CAME OUT WITH AT THE END OF JULY. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT IT SAYS. SOME SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN TEXAS OPERATE UNDER A BRING YOUR OWN DEVICE FRAMEWORK, WHERE STUDENTS BRING LAPTOPS OR TABLETS FROM HOME FOR USE DURING INSTRUCTION. TEXAS EDUCATION CODE 37.082 DOES NOT EXPLICITLY MENTION LAPTOPS AS EXAMPLES OF PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES, BUT DOES MENTION TABLETS, SO THE LAW SAYS IT DOESN'T EXPLICITLY SAY YOU CAN'T BRING PERSONAL LAPTOPS EVEN WITHOUT EXPLICIT MENTION.
LAPTOPS LIKELY MEET THE DEFINITION OF A COMMUNICATION DEVICE. THE STATUTE EXCLUDES DEVICES, LAPTOPS, OR OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. AS IT READS, THE TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE AN ELECTRONIC DEVICE PROVIDED TO A STUDENT BY A SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO WE KNOW THEY CAN BRING THEM IF WE GIVE THEM TO HIM. BUT THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY A PERSONALLY OWNED LAPTOP OR TABLET BROUGHT TO SCHOOL AND USED FOR INSTRUCTION WOULD LIKELY BE PROHIBITED UNDER THE NEW LAW, ABSENT A TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTION THAT PREVENTED THE LAPTOP FROM BEING A COMMUNICATION DEVICE AND ABSENT A SET OF BRING YOUR OWN DEVICE OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES THAT SERVE THE PURPOSE OF MANAGING GOES ON AND ON. SO HAVE WE ALLOWED STUDENTS TO BRING PERSONAL LAPTOPS IN THE PAST TO SCHOOL BEFORE THIS LAW? IN THE PAST, IT HAS HAPPENED ON CAMPUSES? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO I. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ALLOWED IT. I DON'T THINK WE ALLOWED IT, BUT IT WAS A PRACTICE THAT DID OCCUR WAS A PRACTICE. SO I FEEL LIKE IN THE ABSENCE, LIKE AT A SCHOOL THAT IS NOT 1 TO 1, IF THERE IS A WAY, LIKE MR. WELCH WAS SAYING, THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW CERTIFY THAT IT CANNOT COMMUNICATE MEANING LIKE A CHROMEBOOK CANNOT. IMESSAGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER TYPES OF I MEAN, THEY HAVE GOOGLE CHAT OR EMAIL, SO THERE'S EMAIL. BUT WHAT ABOUT A VPN? IS THAT YOUR CONCERN THAT THEY'RE USING VPNS AND THEN THAT'S HOW THEY GET AROUND IT. MY CONCERN IS EVERY SINGLE DAY THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKING TO GET AROUND THE BEST INTENTIONS OF THE VERY BEST PEOPLE AND THE SMARTEST PEOPLE WE HAVE, AND THEY WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY AND GET AROUND THOSE SYSTEMS. AND SO IF, IF, IF I HAVE TO GUARANTEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY, THIS WILL, THIS WILL NOT WORK. IT CAN GET REALLY DIFFICULT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND SO IN TALKING WITH DOCTOR JONES, ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT IF STUDENTS BRING THAT DEVICE, IT CAN CONNECT TO OUR WI-FI. AND THAT MAKES OUR SERVERS MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, MALWARE AND ALL THESE RANSOMWARE, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS CAN MAKE OUR SYSTEM MORE VULNERABLE. AND SO THE ONLY WAY I COULD SEE US DOING THAT IS IF IS IF THEY BRING A DEVICE THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET. AND I DON'T
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KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY DEVICES THAT DO THAT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT COULD CONNECT TO OUR INTERNET. OR A PARENT CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO PAY FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR OWN DATA PACKAGE ON THIS LAPTOP. AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONNECT TO OUR WI-FI, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK TO OTHER DEVICES. YOU KNOW, IF THEY CHOOSE. SO WE BUY LAPTOPS AND WE PUT ALL OUR OWN STUFF ON IT AND WE GIVE THOSE TO STUDENTS. THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT. IF THE STUDENT WERE TO BRING THEIR OWN COMPUTER, WE COULD NOT WE WOULD NOT HAVE. WE HAVE A FILTER. WE HAVE AN EDGE LEVEL FILTER THAT FILTERS THE BASIC INTERNET THAT'S COMING THROUGH ON THE DEVICE. BUT FOR OUR DISTRICT DEVICES, WE ALSO INSTALL AGENTS DIRECTLY ON THE MACHINE, SO WE HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT DEVICE. WE'RE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT DEVICE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SEE WHAT APPLICATIONS ARE GOING ON THERE. WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WHAT THEY'RE TYPING IN THE PAPER JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MONITORING FOR CONCERNING CONTENT. WE'RE ABLE TO DO MORE WHENEVER IT IS OUR DISTRICT DEVICE, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS ON THERE. OKAY. JONES, CAN YOU BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE DEVICE REALLOCATION PLAN? I KNOW WE HAD TALKED TO SEVERAL HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES ABOUT THEIR DUAL CREDIT, AND SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. AND SO WHAT'S WHAT'S OUR PLAN TO HELP HELP WITH THIS SITUATION. YES. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION. AND OVER THE YEARS POPULATIONS HAVE CHANGED. AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, TEACHERS WILL FOLLOW WHERE THE STUDENTS MOVE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS LET'S LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY DEVICES AND SEE WHERE ARE THE GREATEST NEEDS AND WHERE ARE THERE LESS NEEDS BASED ON THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT AND REALLOCATING DEVICES SO THAT THEY'RE MOVING FROM ONE CAMPUS TO A CAMPUS WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE RIGHT NOW, STILL ENSURING THAT THE CURRENT CAMPUS HAS THE NUMBER OF DEVICES THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL GOALS. BUT MOVING DEVICES TO CAMPUSES THAT ARE LOWER PERCENTAGES, THRESHOLDS LIKE THAT. SO GIVE AN EXAMPLE ABOUT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH. SURE. SO AT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH THEIR ENROLLMENT WAS WAS 830 STUDENTS. AND THEY HAD OVER 1000 LAPTOPS ON THAT CAMPUS. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO INITIALLY MEET A NEED AT ANOTHER CAMPUS IS WE POOLED TWO LAPTOP CARTS FROM GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH TO MOVE TO ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS THAT HAD A DUAL CREDIT NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE STUDENTS INSTRUCTIONALLY WERE MEETING THOSE NEEDS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PLAN OF ONCE WE FINALIZE WHERE ALL OF OUR NUMBERS ARE FOR ENROLLMENT AND WE KNOW WHERE OUR KIDS ARE, HOW CAN WE REALLOCATE TO ENSURE THAT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH STILL HAS ALL THE DEVICES THEY NEED FOR THEIR STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL? BUT WE DON'T HAVE DEVICES THAT AREN'T BEING UTILIZED WHENEVER ANOTHER CAMPUS COULD USE THEM. OKAY. AND I KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BOND, BUT I THINK I REMEMBER AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, WE SAID IF THE BOND WERE TO PASS WITH A 1 TO 1 PROPOSAL, HOW QUICKLY WOULD WE BE ABLE TO BE 1 TO 1? THE GOAL. THE GOAL WOULD BE THE VERY NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, BECAUSE WE WOULD APPROVE IN THAT IN THE IN IF IT WERE APPROVED IN THE FALL HERE. YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD RECEIVE FUNDS AS EARLY AS THE SPRING AND THEN TRY AND ROLL THAT OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THE REALLOCATION, IS THERE A PRIORITY ON SECONDARY SCHOOLS LIKE HIGH SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY, OR HOW ARE Y'ALL? SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE WHERE THE GREATEST NEED IS. AND I'D SAY TRUSTEE BOX. THE PRIORITY WAS FOR OUR DUAL CREDIT KIDS FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY RECEIVED THEIR INSTRUCTION. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE IMPEDE THAT. AND SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. AND SO NOW THE PRIORITY IS JUST FOR CAMPUSES THAT NEED AND REALLOCATE THOSE. BUT THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS I KNOW WE SENT TWO, TWO LAPTOP CARTS TO GEORGE RANCH BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A TWO LAPTOP CARTS FOR THEIR DUAL CREDIT CLASSES. AND I JUST RECEIVED A TEXT FROM MY WIFE ABOUT ME CALLING MY SON OUT FOR BEING WRONG. LOVE YOU KID. MICROSOFT D2L IS WHAT HE WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS FOR THE. BUT THAT'S A TWO FACTOR. SO THEY'RE SAYING THAT TO ACCESS THE MICROSOFT D2L THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE TWO FACTOR. NO TO ACCESS D2L. ALL YOU NEED IS INTERNET CONNECTION. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO FACTOR AT ALL OKAY. BECAUSE WELL THEN THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION. WHAT IS BEING TOLD. SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR DUAL CREDIT CLASSROOMS RIGHT NOW, TODAY, DOES EVERY DUAL CREDIT CLASSROOM HAVE ACCESS TO A DEVICE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL OF THE NEEDS HAVE BEEN MET. LONG TIME NO SEE. YES. SO WHAT WE DID IS OUR PRIORITY WERE FOR OUR LSP MODEL, DUAL CREDIT CLASSROOMS. OUR DUAL CREDIT[01:55:01]
CLASSROOMS ARE TAUGHT BY AN EMBEDDED INSTRUCTOR THAT IS CREDENTIALED THROUGH LONE STAR COLLEGE COURSES, WHERE WE HAVE AN LSP MODEL WHERE STUDENTS HAVE THEY'RE RECEIVING THEIR INSTRUCTION ASYNCHRONOUSLY. THOSE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES. SO CONNECTED WITH THOSE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY NEEDS ON CAMPUS VERSUS WHAT THAT ENROLLMENT LOOKED LIKE. WORK WITH DOCTOR JONES TO SEE WHAT THAT ENROLLMENT LOOKS LIKE, PERIOD BY PERIOD, TO THEN TIER WHAT THOSE NEEDS WERE. AND SO BASED ON THAT, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR LSP MODEL CLASSROOMS ARE FULLY OUTFITTED WITH WHAT THEY NEED. PERFECT. MA'AM, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, I APOLOGIZE. YES. I JUST BEGS THE QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE ASYNCHRONOUS. OUR LSP MODEL LSP MODEL IS. SO CONCEIVABLY THE STUDENT COULD ACTUALLY COMPLETE THE CLASS AT HOME IF IT'S ASYNCHRONOUS. YES. ON THEIR OWN PERSONAL DEVICE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT. YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE STUDENT EXCEPTIONS AND TALK ABOUT THAT OKAY. SO WE NEED A MOTION FOR ONE OF THOSE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POUCH AND ALL THAT. SO DO WE. WE HAVE ACCESS TO POUCHES THAT DON'T LOCK. NOT AT THIS TIME. ALL THE CURRENT POUCHES THAT WE HAVE ALL COME FROM A SPECIFIC VENDOR, AND THEY ALL HAVE THAT LOCKING MECHANISM. SO TO LOCK IT, THOUGH, WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO A SEPARATE MACHINE? AND NO, YOU JUST KIND OF SQUEEZE THE TOP TOGETHER AND IT AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS. IT'S PRETTY PRETTY EASY. AND YOU CAN ACCIDENTALLY LOCK THEM VERY EASILY. OH, OKAY. YOU NEED THE MAGNETIC LOCK TO UNLOCK THEM. YEAH. THE ONLY REASON WHY I LIKE A POUCH IS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE. TEACHERS, SUBSTITUTES, ADMIN. ANYBODY CAN SEE THAT A STUDENT HAS THAT, AND THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE THAT IT'S ALLOWED. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE NEW VENDORS OUT THERE THAT HAVE POUCHES THAT DO NOT HAVE THAT LOCKING MECHANISM ON THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED TO ACCESS IT. YEAH. I WAS THINKING LIKE IF WE HAVE A STUDENT NEEDS TO CHECK THEIR BLOOD SUGAR, RIGHT? AND THEY HAVE A POUCH THAT IS LOCKED, HOW DOES THAT STUDENT IN THAT MOMENT. YEAH.BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP AND BE LIKE, LET ME SEE YOUR BADGE AND LET ME SEE IF YOU HAVE A STICKER OR WHATEVER IT IS. HOWEVER WE IDENTIFY IT, IT WOULD JUST BE, OH, I SEE IT.
DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. LET IT BE. HOW WOULD WE HANDLE IT IF A STUDENT, IF WE DO HAVE A POUCH THAT IS LOCKED AND STUDENT DOESN'T NEED TO CHECK THEIR BLOOD SUGAR, RIGHT. SO THAT THAT WAS THE PART OF THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT IS VERY EASY TO LOCK. AND SO A STUDENT CAN HAVE IT IN THEIR POCKET AND JUST PUSH THAT BUTTON AND IT LOCKS AND THEY CHECK THEIR BLOOD SUGAR AND NOT HAVE TO GO FIND SOMEONE THAT HAS THE ACTUAL MAGNET. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY BE THE ADMINISTRATOR OR ADMINISTRATOR, YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND DO THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT SOME KIND OF INDICATION ON ID BADGE OR IF IT'S A MEDICAL REASON, YOU KNOW, THE NURSE CAN GIVE SOME LITTLE, YOU KNOW, CARD. THEY CAN PUT IT IN THEIR BADGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HEY, I HAVE THIS. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN DO IT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE THERE ARE VENDORS NOW THAT HAVE POUCHES THAT DO NOT LOCK. BUT ALSO I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE IT'S LIKE A SCARLET LETTER KIND OF THING, WHERE IF A STUDENT DOES HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL, SAY, OKAY, WELL, HEY, LOOK AT THAT KID. HE'S GOT THAT, THAT POUCH. WELL, BUT IF IT'S IN A MEDICAL SITUATION, IT MAY NOT. BUT WHAT ABOUT A POUCH? THAT THAT'S CLEAR THAT THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO ACCESS, THAT THEY CAN SEE IT. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IT'S IDENTIFIABLE. SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING A NEW DEVICE. STORAGE POUCHES OKAY. OKAY. DOESN'T THE TO WASN'T THERE A GRANT FOR THAT TO PURCHASE $20 MILLION IN STATE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR GRANTS FOR POUCHES, BUT NOT FOR COMPUTERS, FOR COMPUTERS, BUT FOR POUCHES? YEAH. MR. NAVARRA, WE'RE TALKING JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR STUDENT EXCEPTIONS, THESE ARE FOLKS WHO? KIDS. STUDENTS WHO HAVE A 504 THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE GRANTED THE USE OF A PERSONAL OR A 504 OR A HEALTH PLAN IN PLACE, AND THE LAW ALLOWS FOR THAT EXCEPTION. THAT'S CORRECT. SO MY NEXT QUESTION WAS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. ARE WE TALKING WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE OF THE TWO OPTIONS OF DOING ONE WOULD ONE WOULD BE PRETTY MINIMAL. IF YOU JUST PUT A STICKER ON YOUR ID CARD, THE OTHER ONE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT POUCHES RANGING FROM ANYWHERE FROM LIKE $16 TO $40 A PIECE. HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MONEY? I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL CAMPUSES PILOT LAST YEAR ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY DID THEY DID WE SPEND ABOUT THE WEIGHTS OR MR. NAVA ON THE PILOT OR THE POUCHES FOR THOSE FEW CAMPUSES? EXCUSE ME. GOOD EVENING TRUSTEES. DOCTOR EVANS FOR ABOUT EAST CAMPUS, ABOUT $1,600. WE HAD SEVEN CAMPUSES PARTICIPATE IN THE PILOT. SO ALL
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OF THOSE ARE LOCKING POUCHES? YES. YONDER. YONDER. OKAY. AND SO AGAIN, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO USE POUCHES AND LIKE TO UNLOCK, YOU KNOW, POUCHES THAT DON'T LOCK, THEN WE WOULD GO PURCHASE THOSE AND THEN WE JUST BRING BACK A PROBABLY A BUDGET AMENDMENT NEXT MONTH FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE TO MOVE THAT MONEY IF WE IF WE NEED TO DO THAT. BUT WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE NOT ASKING US TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. THIS IS STRICTLY JUST HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE IDENTIFIED. YES. OKAY. SO BUT IF WE GO WITH NUMBER TWO THOUGH, WE HAVE TO PURCHASE THEM. IF WE DON'T GET EITHER WITH GRANT MONEY OR WITH LAMAR MONEY. YES. BUT I THINK THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATION MENTIONS POUCHES IN THERE. SO IF YOU APPROVE IT AS IS, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO PURCHASE THOSE POUCHES. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY POUCHES THAT MIGHT BE? YEAH. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION OR 504, IT'S ABOUT MISS MATHIS. YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS, BUT WOULDN'T THEY? IT'S NOT JUST ANYBODY IN 504. IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY IN 504 THAT HAS A NECESSITY TO USE. ABSOLUTELY YES. OR SOMETHING SPECIFIC. SAME WITH THE IEPS AND WITH THE MEDICAL. IT HAS TO BE A DOCTOR. A DOCTOR HAS TO VOUCH FOR IT. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.OKAY. SO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 7700 SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS AND APPROXIMATELY 3504 STUDENTS.
BUT OF THAT, WE PROBABLY HAVE LESS THAN 1%. THAT WOULD HAVE A MEDICAL NEED FOR THE POUCHES. SO I'M LOOKING AT LESS THAN 200 MOST LIKELY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT NOW. BUT AGAIN. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK, IF YOU GO BACK TO THOSE THERE ARE AND I DON'T I KNOW I'M ON CAMERA, I'M GONNA SAY THIS, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROFESSIONALS OUT THERE THAT WILL ALLOW THAT WILL DOCUMENT THAT. EVEN THOUGH A STUDENT MAY NOT NEED IT, THEY WILL DOCUMENT AND SAY, THIS STUDENT DOES NEED IT. I'VE RUN INTO THAT SEVERAL TIMES AND THAT DOES HAPPEN. AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THAT FEW NUMBER, IF YOU WILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL GO AND FIND A DOCTOR THAT WILL SAY, HEY, YEAH, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOUR KID. YEAH. GO AHEAD. AND SO THAT DOES HAPPEN. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO IT DOES HAPPEN. MISS MATHIS, REGARDING THE PUTTING A STICKER, FOR INSTANCE, IN IDENTIFYING A STUDENT, WOULD THAT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE 504 AND THE GENERAL POPULATION THAT IDENTIFY THEM? AND SO IT DOES HAVE A LEVEL OF BREACHING CONFIDENTIALITY, BUT OUR ATTORNEY WOULD WOULD PROBABLY SPEAK BETTER TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BREAKS ANY LEGAL. YEAH. LET ME LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR YOU OR SOMEBODY ELSE. I KNOW THAT THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR CAN SCAN THE STUDENT ID AND THERE'S INFORMATION THAT POPS UP ABOUT THAT STUDENT. COULD WE NOT PUT THAT EXCEPTION TO IN THAT PLACE TO WHERE ANY ADMINISTRATOR IN A SCHOOL COULD SAY, HEY, LET ME SEE, LET ME LET ME SCAN YOUR THING, SEE IT? AND OF COURSE, AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF A NEW SCHOOL YEAR, THEY WOULD BEGIN TO IDENTIFY THOSE STUDENTS. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING PHYSICAL, CORRECT? IN ADDITION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON, RIGHT, TO ACHIEVE THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THAT'S ALREADY IN SKYWARD SET UP THAT WAY SO THAT ADMINISTRATORS WILL KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO REGARDING OUR STUDENTS AND THEIR DISABILITIES. I THINK THE PROBLEM MIGHT COME IN WHERE WE HAVE TEACHERS. THEY CAN'T JUST SCAN A BADGE AND SUBSTITUTES THAT AREN'T AWARE OF THE ISSUE THAT SO MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY, THEN WE PROBABLY COULD DO SOME SORT OF A LAMINATED PASS THAT THEY CAN SLIDE IN SOMEWHERE IN THEIR BACKPACK. AND OF COURSE THEIR REGULAR TEACHERS WILL KNOW THAT. AND IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING THAT BUT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A POUCH BECAUSE I THINK IT MAY PREVENT SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO MAY JUST GO FOR A HEALTH PLAN REASON FOR A OH, I HAVE THIS, OR I HAVE THAT. IF THEY KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO GIVE THEM FREE REIN TO THEIR CELL PHONE. RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE YOU GO GET A DOCTOR'S NOTE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN BE ON YOUR PHONE ALL DAY. YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT IT IN A POUCH. YOU STILL HAVE RESTRICTED ACCESS. AND SO THAT WOULD BE WHY I WOULD MORE LIKELY SUPPORT THE DEVICE STORAGE POUCH OPTION. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THAT WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS WITH SEVERE SEIZURES, OKAY. AND THEY MAY HAPPEN MORE FREQUENTLY. AND SO THAT COULD BE AN EXCEPTION TO THIS OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN FIGURE OUT. YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE 504 PLAN IS SEIZURE RELATED OR SOMETHING THEN RIGHT. MAYBE THEY GET AN ADDITIONAL SOMETHING OR MAYBE THEY GET THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOCK
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IT I DON'T KNOW. SO WE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS GIVE PEOPLE THE AUTONOMY TO BE ABLE TO CIRCUMVENT BOARD POLICY OR MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO BOARD POLICY.AND SO IF THE BOARD SAYS WE'D LIKE EVERYONE TO HAVE A POUCH TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE CAN DO AS AN ADMINISTRATION TEAM, ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, WE CAN FIND THE POUCH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THE POUCHES THAT DON'T LOCK. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS. BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A POUCH BECAUSE OF THIS. AND IT GOES AGAINST BOARD POLICY. OKAY. I THINK GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR BACKPACK, IT'S A POUCH. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S REAL HARD TO GET YOUR PHONE OUT OF IT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, UNLESS YOU'RE THINKING OF SOME SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE. THEY STILL HAVE TO GET IN THEIR BACKPACK AND GET IT OUT. SO YEAH, I'M I'M NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE, THE TRUE MOTIVATION TO GET THE POUCH. WHERE HOW WOULD THE HOW BIG IS THE POUCH, FIRST OF ALL. AND HOW HOW ARE THE POUCHES CARRIED BY A STUDENT IN THEIR BACKPACK? YES. SO THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY? WHY NOT JUST HAVE THEM PUT IT IN THEIR BACKPACK? WELL, BECAUSE THEN WHEN THEY'RE IN THE CLASSROOM AND THEY'RE GETTING IT OUT IN CLASS, WHICH IS WHERE POLICY STATES THEY CAN HAVE IT OUT UNLESS IT'S A MEDICAL CONDITION, THEN A SUBSTITUTE, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD SEE THEM GET IT OUT AND HAVE THEIR POUCH ON THEIR DESK, MAYBE LIKE AS AN IDENTIFIER, SAYING, YEP, THAT PERSON HAS PERMISSION TO USE THEIR PHONE IN CLASS WHEN IT'S NEEDED. I DON'T KNOW. SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE A RUNNING LIST. AND SO OPERATIONALLY WE WOULD STILL HAVE A RUNNING LIST. THE ADMINISTRATION, CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS WOULD ALL KNOW IF ROOSEVELT HAS A MEDICAL REASON TO USE HIS PHONE. EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW THAT EXCEPT THE SUB. BUT IN THE SUB NOTES, YOU KNOW, TEACHER CAN PUT THEIR ROOSEVELT HAS AN EXCEPTION TO USE HIS PHONE. AND SO ALL THAT WE CAN WE CAN MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES. THAT'S WHATEVER YOU GUYS CHOOSE.
WE CAN MAKE HAPPEN. I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE CHOOSE IS LEGAL AND DOESN'T, LIKE, GO AROUND FERPA AT ALL, OR SOME IDENTIFIABLE. IF A STUDENT HAS SOMETHING THAT I MEAN, THAT OUR ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK INTO WITH THAT, I DON'T WANT TO. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT JOKINGLY, THE SCARLET LETTER KIND OF THING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO IF SOMETHING DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON DISPLAY, THEN WE DON'T DISPLAY IT OR WE DON'T PUT POLICY IN PLACE THAT WILL DISPLAY SOMETHING THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL. WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO. I AGREE WITH YOU. WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GET ONE OF THESE. WE COULD REWORD IT TO WHERE IT'S SOMETHING IDENTIFIABLE BY THE BARCODE AND THE SYSTEM THAT ONLY ADMINISTRATOR KNOWS. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS I'LL TELL YOU THIS. I'LL SUPPORT THE POUCH IF WITH THE EXCEPTION, IF WE CAN BUY IT IN LAMAR WITH GRANT MONEY. AND IF WE CAN'T, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO OPPOSE IT.
AND THIS IS WHY. BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT. BUT THIS IS WHY THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS NEVER HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. AND THEY'RE ALL GOOD REASONS AND THEY'RE GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT IT'S JUST ONE LITTLE THING AFTER ANOTHER, AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER. AND 70% OF THE PUBLIC, AS THEY HEAR ME SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, HAS NO DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE THEY LIVE, THE STATE AVERAGE IN TEXAS, AND WE CONSTANTLY NEED MORE OF THEIR MONEY. AND THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY. SO I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY ACHIEVE THE SAME THING WITHOUT PURCHASING USING LAMAR MONEY TO PURCHASE THE POUCHES. BUT IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO GIVE US SOME GRANT MONEY TO DO IT, I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT WE ALSO KNOW. SO THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHO THE STUDENT IS, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE SOME STUDENTS THAT WILL JUST GO TO AMAZON AND BUY THE UNLOCK THE POUCH THAT DOESN'T LOCK. AND SO IF WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION, ROOSEVELT NEWS IS WALKING IN THE CLASSROOM AND SAY, OH, I GOT THIS POUCH ON AMAZON. SO THEY SEE ME PULL THIS POUCH OUT, THEN THEY JUST ASSUME I HAVE IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE STILL SAY EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHO. THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS AROUND THIS. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN ON CAMPUS A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS ARE YOUNG, PEOPLE ARE VERY CREATIVE, AND THEY CAN FIND WAYS THEY CAN THEY CAN FIND WAYS TO GET AROUND IT. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS BE PROACTIVE TO FIND WAYS TO, TO BLOCK THOSE BEFOREHAND. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE BADGES BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SCHOOL ISSUED A NURSES PASS IS SOMETHING THAT SCHOOL ISSUED, YOU KNOW. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE THINGS JUST TO KIND OF HELP ALLEVIATE SOME CREATIVE THINKING FROM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. SO CAN WE REWARD THE FIRST OPTION JUST TO SAY THAT A STUDENT WITH A PERSONAL DEVICE WILL BE IDENTIFIED WITH WHATEVER THE DISTRICT DECIDES, LIKE SOME KIND OF DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION BADGE OR DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION IDENTIFIED BY AN INDICATOR, BY AN INDICATOR DISTRICT, DISTRICT APPROVED INDICATOR. OKAY. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT WAY IT COVERS WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO. SO TRUSTEE BOX, COULD YOU REPEAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AGAIN? WELL, I WAS JUST SAYING CAN WE JUST SAY A STUDENT WITH A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE WILL BE. WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT WILL BE A SCHOOL DISTRICT APPROVED. WILL HAVE A SCHOOL
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SCHOOL DISTRICT APPROVED INDICATOR. THANK YOU. MA'AM, INDICATED BY AN INDICATOR. ADD TO THAT. OKAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT. YOU DON'T LIKE MY DEFINITION? WHAT? NO, WHAT? I WAS JUST TEASING. FIRST. FIRST? WHO ARE YOU? WHO YOU ARE? OH, PAM KAMINSKI, ATTORNEY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH SPECIAL EDUCATION IN 504. SO SAYING THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE FROM THE SCHOOL THAT SHOWS THAT A STUDENT CAN SHOW THAT BADGE. WE HAVE STUDENTS CURRENTLY RECEIVING WITHIN THEIR BEHAVIOR PLANS, WITHIN OTHER PARTS OF THEIR IEP THAT THEY CARRY WITHIN THEIR LANYARD, A PASS IF THEY NEED A BREAK, IF THEY HAVE COPING STRATEGIES, THEY MAY HAVE THAT IN THEIR STUDENTS HAVE VARIOUS THINGS AS PART OF PASSES, OR IF THEY'RE ALLOWED FREQUENT BREAKS, THEY HAVE IT PASSED. I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE DO. SO THIS WOULD BE IN LINE WITH SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY USE ON CAMPUSES AND WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. I DO LIKE WHAT YOU MENTIONED, MR. WELSH, ABOUT HAVING A BARCODE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE SCANNED SO THAT THAT COULD BE CLEAR DEFINITIONS FOR THEM TO LOOK AT. THEY KNOW YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING, BUT THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD OPTIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT TO DO SO. LCISD APPROVED INDICATOR. IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S THAT'S GOOD OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THE STUDENT EXCEPTIONS. OKAY I'LL SAY IT A DIFFERENT WAY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR A STUDENT WITH A PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE WILL BE IDENTIFIED BY A DISTRICT IN LCISD APPROVED INDICATOR AS THE LANGUAGE FOR THE CODE OF CONDUCT CAN MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. TRUSTEE BOX MAKES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? TRUSTEE? WELCH. SECONDS. I'LL NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. IS THAT IT? FOR THIS? AND JUST THE APPROVAL OF THE HANDBOOK OVERALL. WELL OVERALL OKAY. YES. OKAY. YES. TRUSTEE I JUST HAVE JUST TWO REALLY SMALL CHANGES ON PAGE 16 WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT PERSONAL TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES. CAN WE JUST SAY PERSONAL TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WE'RE JUST INDICATING THAT THE THINGS LISTED BELOW IT ARE INCLUDED. SORRY. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? I'M ON PAGE. IT'S 44 OF OUR BOOK BUT 16 OF THE HANDBOOK. IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY MINOR, BUT. SO EVERYTHING THE WORD, JUST REMOVING THE WORD MEANS. YEAH JUST ADDING INCLUDES DEVICE INCLUDE DEVICES. PERSONAL TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. DA DA DA DA DA. YES. WE'RE JUST REPLACING THE WORD MEANS WITH INCLUDE. IS THAT CORRECT. WHICH IS WHAT'S PROPOSED RIGHT THERE. SO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME OH SORRY LAST MINUTE EDITS OKAY OKAY. AND THEN ALSO ON PAGE 947 OF OUR BOOK 19, WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT DEFINING AN EMERGENCY, YOU MIGHT HAVE CHANGED THAT ALSO. IT'S. EMERGENCY IS DEFINED. OKAY. IT JUST SAYS EMERGENCY MEANS OR JUST OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? OKAY THEN. GOOD. OKAY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROVE THE UPDATED 2025 2026 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AS PRESENTED.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS VAPING? OKAY. OH, GOODNESS. YES. WE DIDN'T DISCUSS VAPING. OKAY, SORRY, I RETRACT THAT CALL FOR THE MOTION. LET'S DISCUSS VAPING. DISCUSS VAPING. SORRY.
CAN YOU PULL UP? BECAUSE MAYBE THE CHANGE. SORRY. MAYBE THE CHANGES ARE ALREADY ON THERE.
CAN YOU PULL IT UP FOR WHAT THEY WERE? I THINK THEY WERE ON THERE. I THINK THEY WERE ON THERE. OKAY, SO THIS IS MINOR AND THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION IS THAT WE HAVE THE TERM CONFISCATED ON THERE MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT IT'S NOT DEFINED. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH IT THROWING IN THE TRASH. IT'S NOT DEFINED. THE TERM CONFISCATED IS NOT DEFINED IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO WITH IF WE GO BACK TO THE CELL PHONE POLICY, WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S CONFISCATED AND THE PARENT CAN PICK IT UP. NO. SO THE CELL PHONE. SORRY. YEAH. WAIT A MINUTE. SO WITH WITH THIS, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION HOW THE CAMPUSES CAN HANDLE WHAT
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THEY'RE DOING WITH THE DEVICES. I JUST DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT THAT. OR CAN DEVICE CONFISCATED BE INTERPRETED AS IT'S JUST CONFISCATED AND YOU DON'T GET IT BACK, RIGHT. IT'S CONTRABAND. AND SO WE NORMALLY ADMINISTER TO JUST THROW IT AWAY. OKAY. CAN WE DEFINE THAT? I CAN IT CONFISCATED. SO TYPICALLY SO THAT THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD WHEN WE CONFISCATE IT IS CONSIDERED CONTRABAND. SO WE COULD CONFISCATE A VAPE PEN. WE DO NOT GIVE THAT BACK TO THE PARENTS. AND SO A CELL PHONE IS ALSO CONSIDERED CONTRABAND. BUT WE WILL GIVE THAT BACK. AND SO WE CAN DEFINE THAT HOWEVER THE BOARD CHOOSES. SO WE CAN SAY FOR VAPE PENS CONFISCATED AND THEY WILL NOT BE RETURNED. WILL YOU SAY THAT. YES. AND THEN FOR THE TO THE TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES, THEN WE LISTED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES AND THEN IT WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PARENT AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO WE CAN WE CAN DESIGNATE THAT. THANK YOU. SO OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. SO DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. YES I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. YES. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE A STATEMENT TO DEFINE WHAT DEVICE CONFISCATION MEANS FOR THE VAPE, THAT IT WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION AND DISPOSED OF? SECOND. OKAY, MR. ROYER. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION, CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. NOW, WITH THAT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO APPROVE THE UPDATED 2025 2026 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AS PRESENTED. TRUSTEE BOX MAKES THE MOTION MISS MASTERS SECONDS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE, I NOW CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO CALL FOR A HENDERSON AND LAMBERT. TAP, TAP. OKAY. IT IS 859 AND WE ARE BACK FROM OUR
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BREAK. AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM FIVE D. OUR BOARD. WE HAVE MR. BUCHANAN AT THE PODIUM. TALK ABOUT OUR CALL FOR A BOND ELECTION. AND SO AS WE DEAL WITH THE LAST CONVERSATION WE'LL GET TO THE END. WE'LL ASK SOME SPECIFIC THINGS FROM TRUSTEES. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONVERSATION AND OUR BOND ATTORNEYS HERE, BUT ALSO OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS HERE. AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK THOSE. SO MR. BUCHANAN GOOD EVENING, BOARD TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR NIVENS. TONIGHT WE WANT TO BRING FORTH A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR A CALL FOR BOND ELECTION. SO DURING THIS PROCESS, WE HAD TWO COMMUNITY INPUTS. THE FIRST COMMUNITY INPUT WE HAD WAS THE BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE AND THE SECOND WAS A ONLINE SURVEY. SO FOR BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE THESE WERE OUR BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS.OUR BOND COMMITTEE MET ON JUNE THE 10TH, 2025. WE DISCUSSED ALL THE PROPOSED PROJECTS AT THAT TIME. WE DISCUSSED THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND THEN WE TOOK VOTES TO GET THEIR INPUT. THE SECOND WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GAIN INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS WAS THROUGH AN ONLINE SURVEY SURVEY LAUNCHED ON JUNE THE 30TH. IT CLOSED ON JULY THE 18TH. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 3258 RESPONSES. OF THOSE RESPONSES. WHEN IT SAYS SINGLE USE LINK, WE SEND OUT DIRECT EMAILS TO OUR PARENTS AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. SO 2775 USED THAT DIRECT LINK THAT WAS SENT OUT. THE 483 USED BOTH THE DISTRICT WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE SURVEY. SO THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASKED THEM IS, WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO LAMAR CISD? THEY CAN PICK ALL THAT APPLY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, 72% OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE A PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF LAMAR CISD STUDENT. OUR NEXT HIGHEST WAS THEY WERE ALSO AN EMPLOYEE OR WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE DISTRICT. NEXT RESPONSE THAT WE ASK IS WHAT CITY DO YOU CURRENTLY RESIDE IN? 39% OF OUR RESPONDENTS WAS FROM RICHMOND, 20% WAS FROM ROSENBERG, AND 15% WAS FROM FULSHEAR. OUR NEXT QUESTION WAS HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED WITHIN THE LAMAR CSD AREA? AS YOU CAN SEE, MAJORITY OF OUR RESPONDENTS HAD MORE THAN TEN YEARS RESIDING IN THE AREA. OUR NEXT HIGHEST WAS BETWEEN 1 TO 5 YEARS. SO PART OF THE SURVEY, WE DID PROVIDE LINKS FOR OUR JUNE 16TH
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MEETING AND OUR JUNE 17TH MEETING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE SURVEY, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE MEETINGS AND BE ABLE TO VIEW THE CONTENT OF THE RESPONDENTS, 60% CHOSE NOT TO LOOK AT EITHER ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS BEFORE THEY TOOK THE SURVEY. NOW, BEFORE WE GO INTO OUR PROPOSED PROJECTS, WE WILL PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON EACH PROJECT AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL. OR IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST THE SURVEY IN GENERAL? SO PROPOSED PROJECTS. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE PROPOSITION A NEW SCHOOLS AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS IS OUR BLOCK OF NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THERE'S A TOTAL OF SEVEN ALTOGETHER. THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE YEAR THAT THE CAMPUS WILL OPEN. THE NEXT IS THE BUDGET. THOSE BUDGETS ARE BASED ON OUR LAST COMPLETED BID THAT WE HAD FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THEN WE'VE ADDED OUR SOFT COSTS, WHICH IS OUR FAA, FFA, OUR ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING MATERIAL TESTING THAT GAVE US AN OVERALL BUDGET. AND THEN WE INCLUDED INFLATION OF 7% FOR EACH YEAR. THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM 27 TO 20 8 TO 29. THOSE PRICES GO UP AS IT ADDS AN EXTRA 7% FOR THE YEAR OF INFLATION. FOR THOSE CAMPUSES. IF OUR BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS 40 THROUGH 44 WAS 100% IN FAVOR OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 39 AND 45 WERE AT 95%. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN PROPOSITION A? OKAY, PROPOSITION A HAS OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS, LEHMANN AND ROBERTS ADDITIONS RIGHT NOW WE IN THE 22 BOND. THE BOARD APPROVED A 1000 SEAT ADDITION AT FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL. CURRENTLY, FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL CAN HOLD MORE KIDS IN THEIR FACILITY THAN CAN FEED THROUGH ROBERTS AND LEHMANN SCHOOLS, SO THESE ADDITIONS WOULD BE ADDING 13 CLASSROOMS TO LEHMANN JUNIOR HIGH TO BRING THEIR CAPACITY UP TO 1550, ADDING FIVE CLASSROOMS TO OUR THREE CLASSROOMS TO ROBERTS MIDDLE SCHOOL, BRINGING THEM TO 775. THAT WOULD CREATE A FEEDER PATTERN FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH OUR SECONDARY CAMPUS. THE NEXT THING ON THE LIST IS HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX NINE. SO THIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL, JUNIOR HIGH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL BASED ON OUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHER STUDY. BY 2030, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 6100 STUDENTS AT BOWSHER HIGH SCHOOL. KNOWING THAT COMPLEX EIGHT WILL OPEN UP IN 27. IF YOU STILL DIVIDE THAT BY TWO, THAT'S PUTTING 31 ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER 3000 KIDS AT BOTH OF THOSE SECONDARY CAMPUSES, MEANING THAT THE NEXT SECONDARY CAMPUS NEEDS TO OPEN UP IN THE FULSHEAR AREA AS WELL. THE LAST IS A NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, NEW GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, NEW NAVARRO MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO AS WE LOOK AT THESE, THIS IS OUR CURRENT MAP OF OUR OF OUR DISTRICT AS IT LAYS OUT CURRENTLY. IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE OCTAGON EIGHT AT THE TOP, THAT'S WHERE OUR SECONDARY EIGHT CAMPUS WILL BE. IF YOU LOOK AT LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL AND LAMAR AND TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, LAMAR CONSOLIDATED HIGH SCHOOL AND TERRY HIGH SCHOOL ARE VERY CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER. IF WE WERE TO EXPAND THE TERRY OR LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL'S ATTENDANCE ZONE, YOU WOULD BASICALLY ENCAPSULATE THE TERRY HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, SO YOU WOULD HAVE A SECONDARY CAMPUS SITTING WITHIN A ANOTHER SECONDARY CAMPUS ATTENDANCE ZONE. THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BEING ABLE TO MOVE THAT NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL DOWN TO THE SPUR 1059 LOCATION ADJACENT TO OUR CTE CENTER. WE ALREADY CURRENTLY OWN THE LAND FOR THAT SITE. THE CAPACITY. CURRENTLY, TERRY HIGH SCHOOL HAS 1875 AS A CAPACITY. AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BUILDING A 2575 SEAT CAMPUS, POSSIBLY DOING AN ALTERNATE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT UP TO 3100. THE OTHER THING IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS IT WOULD PUT THREE HIGH SCHOOLS ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF 59, ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO ZONE AND HOPEFULLY, DEPENDING ON OUR ZONING AS WE GO THROUGH, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT LESS OFTEN. SO IF WE DID THAT, IT WOULD GIVE US LONGER STRETCHES TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE ATTENDANCE ZONES SOLID. THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS IT PUSHES THE NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE OF ITS CURRENT ATTENDANCE ZONE TRACK, SO IT WOULD SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RED TRACK CURRENT ATTENDANCE ZONE, BUT ALSO SPREADING OUT THESE CAMPUSES. IT ALLOWS US, IF WE DO HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, MINOR ADJUSTMENTS ON THE EDGES OF THE ATTENDANCE ZONE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO A LEVELING LIKE WE HAD TO DO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR SECONDARY CAMPUSES? IS PROPOSITION A? MR. BUCHANAN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT PHYSICALLY PICKING UP THE RED TRACK SCHOOLS AND MOVING THEM. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS. BUT WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS IS THAT NOT EVERY STUDENT WHO NOW ATTENDS GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, NAVARRO AND TERRY HIGH SCHOOL WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE[02:25:05]
GOING TO THE NEW CAMPUSES BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY SIT GEOGRAPHICALLY. THEY MIGHT ALSO NEED TO GO TO LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL. AS I'M ASKING YOU TO SPECULATE. SO THE WAY IF IT WORKS NOW, WE WERE TO BUILD IT AT TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, UNLESS WE DO A REZONING OR A LEVELING, THE ATTENDANCE ZONES WOULD NOT CHANGE. SO IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO SOME LEVELING AND REZONING BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, AS WE CONTINUE TO GET THAT AND NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, THEN YES, IT WOULD BE THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT THOSE STUDENTS MAY OR MAY NOT ATTEND THAT CAMPUS. BUT IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT CAMPUS AND NOT REZONE, EVERY STUDENT THAT ATTENDS THOSE THREE CAMPUSES WOULD ATTEND THE NEW CAMPUSES. SO IF THIS IS APPROVED BY US AND THEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, WHEN WOULD THAT CAMPUS PROBABLY OPEN? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OPENING IT IN THE FALL OF 2019.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH PROPOSITION A FOR SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY, YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT OPENING UP EIGHT CAMPUSES IN THE FALL OF 29, TWO HIGH SCHOOLS, TWO JUNIOR HIGHS, TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I'M JUST I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE THE POINT TO THE PUBLIC THAT AND THIS CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LEVELING AND THE REZONING THAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND A HALF, IS THAT SCHOOL ZONES DO NOT BELIEVE A REALTOR WHEN THEY SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL. IF YOU BUY THIS HOUSE, THAT IS, THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOTHING THAT DEFINES THAT. THIS BOARD, WHETHER WHOEVER'S ON IT WILL DEFINE THOSE LINES. AND THAT IS A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY, ESPECIALLY FOLKS WHO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE CURRENT CAMPUS, THE RED TRACK, SECONDARY CAMPUSES. IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THEY THEY MIGHT NOT GO DOWN TO THE NEW CAMPUSES JUST BECAUSE OF THE AGING POPULATION AND NOT AS MUCH TURNOVER IN THAT OLD ROSENBERG AND RICHMOND AREA. I'M ALSO I'M ALSO SPECULATING, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT YOUR STUDENT WHO'S IN SIXTH GRADE IS GOING TO ATTEND THIS SCHOOL IN A COUPLE YEARS. THAT IS CORRECT. THE OTHER THING IS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED IS WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE CURRENT TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, AND NAVARRO MIDDLE SCHOOL? IF THIS WERE TO BE PASSED BY THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, WOULD WE WOULD DO IS PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE COULD REPURPOSE THOSE FACILITIES. IF THOSE FACILITIES NEED TO BE REPURPOSED. SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS MAYBE A FINE ARTS ACADEMY IS SEVEN THROUGH 12. TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS. IF WE WERE TO POSSIBLY IN THE NEXT BOND AFTER THIS ONE, DO SOMETHING WITH TERRY LAMAR, CONSOLIDATED HIGH SCHOOL, LAMAR JUNIOR HIGH AND WESSENDORF. IT MIGHT GIVE US A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO TRANSITION THOSE STUDENTS TO WHILE WE DID SOMETHING TO THOSE CAMPUSES. ALL OF THOSE NEED TO BE EXPLORED. IF THE VOTERS DECIDE THAT WE WANT A NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, THEN WE NEED TO START THOSE CONVERSATIONS EARLY, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF THE 28 BOND OF WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THOSE FACILITIES. OKAY, LET'S SAY THAT YOU LIVE RIGHT BY TERRY HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. DO YOU KNOW LIKE MINUTES WISE, HOW LONG LIKE HOW WHAT THAT CHANGE WOULD BE TO GO TO THE NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE FIVE, TEN MINUTES? GREAT QUESTION. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON TRAFFIC TIME OF DAY, BUT IT COULD RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 25 MINUTES BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WHEN WE LOOKED AT MOVING THE CTE CENTER AND BEING ABLE TO MOVE STUDENTS FROM EACH CAMPUS TO THE CTE CENTER. YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD TAKE 15 MINUTES TO DRIVE FROM THE CURRENT TERRY HIGH SCHOOL TO THE PROPOSED LOCATION? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. NOW 59.
YES, SIR. I CAN DO THAT IN FIVE. SO I DON'T KNOW. SOMEBODY'S DRIVING SLOW BECAUSE I DO. I DID IT TODAY. IT WAS DRIVING THE LCISD VEHICLE. HE'S BEING CAUTIOUS. AND. IT TAKES ABOUT 12 TO 15 BECAUSE I USED TO BUY MATERIAL RIGHT THERE. BUY IT FROM. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION. YOU YOU MENTIONED AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION WITH THE WITH THE MONEY BUILDING FOR 2575. BUT THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 3100. YES, MA'AM. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR BOTH A SECONDARY COMPLEX NON AND THE NEW TERRY COMPLEX IS CURRENTLY IN OUR, OUR BASE BID.
WE WOULD BID AT 2575 STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE BID TO TAKE IT UP TO THE MAX. SO WE WOULD MATCH WHAT CURRENTLY FISHER HIGH SCHOOL AND SECONDARY EIGHT. IT'S THE SAME METHOD WE USE FOR SECONDARY EIGHT. THE BIDS CAME IN AND WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD ALL THREE OF THOSE CAMPUSES AT A LARGER CAPACITY BECAUSE IT FIT WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUDGET. BUT WHAT IT
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ALLOWS US TO DO IS WITH THAT INFLATION, DEPENDING ON THE INFLATION NUMBER, HOW IT WORKS, HOW THE BID PRICES COME BACK, IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY. AGAIN, WE WOULD BUILD IT, THOUGH, THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND ADD 500 ADDITIONAL SEATS LATER IF IT DID NOT MAKE IT WITHIN THE BUDGET, JUST LIKE WE DID AT RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE JUNIOR OR GEORGE RANCH AND FOSTER AND THOMAS. OKAY. SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST GET FOR CLARIFICATION AND REITERATE AS WELL IS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE THE FASTEST GROWING SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GROWING AT A RATE OF ABOUT 2000 STUDENTS PER YEAR.YES, SIR. OKAY. FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO? SO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I THINK IS A REAL IMPORTANT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT TRUSTEE MASTERS AND I ATTENDED A CONFERENCE IN AUSTIN AT THE TIA. AND ONE OF THE MANY GOOD THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AT THAT CONFERENCE IS THAT LCISD IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE TOP RATED SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS OF NO SURPRISE TO US. THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS WINNING TEAM. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND THAT VIEWERS UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT FAMILIES WANT TO MOVE INTO GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THAT'S PART OF WHY WE'RE GROWING. AND I KNOW AND I UNDERSTAND, I'M A COUNTRY BOY. I LOVE I LOVE RURAL COMMUNITIES. AND I REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF PASTURE OUT HERE IN THIS AREA. AND I MISS THOSE DAYS. BUT GROWTH IS INEVITABLE. OKAY. AND IT'S YOU KNOW, I'VE SERVED ON A ON A CITY COUNCIL WHERE WE WERE GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED IN THAT EXPERIENCE IS THAT YOU CAN'T STOP GROWTH. OKAY. SO MY POINT IS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT LEAST IN THE SOUTHERN, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT, PART OF THE DISTRICT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO RELOCATE TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IN THE NEAR FUTURE IN THAT GENERAL AREA. YES, SIR. I WOULDN'T SAY COMING ONLINE. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO DEVELOP.
YES, SIR. THERE THERE ARE ROOFTOPS AND ANYONE YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS I COMMUTED INTO HOUSTON, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WORKED IN CORPORATE AMERICA. AND IF SOMEONE EVER DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT EVER DRIVE SOUTH. IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT FIVE MINUTE DRIVE TO THE NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL. THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS DOWN IN THAT AREA. AND JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING, I HEARD THAT THERE'S YET ANOTHER SUBDIVISION THAT'S COMING IN AT 98. SO MY POINT IS THAT AND THAT'S JUST THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT, THERE'S AUSTIN POINT, THERE'S WIMBERLEY, THERE'S THE GEORGE. AND THAT'S GOING TO PUT A HUGE POPULATION ON THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT. SO FRANKLY, MY POINT IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR US TO CONSTRUCT A HIGH SCHOOL AT HIGHWAY 59 AND SPUR TEN. BUT BEYOND THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DURING THE LAST GRADUATION CYCLE, TERRY HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATED APPROXIMATELY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 2500 STUDENTS. MAYBE DOCTOR WAITS CAN CONFIRM THAT TERRY GRADUATED ABOUT 2500 STUDENTS. SO DID LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL. NO, SIR. JUST FOR THE CORRECTION. ABOUT 400 STUDENTS FOR TERRY HIGH SCHOOL AND FOUR. OH. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR, I MISSPEAK. THAT'S A CAPACITY. I'M ALMOST TO CAPACITY. YES, SIR. OH, MY NUMBERS ARE WAY OFF. I'M GLAD YOU'RE CONFIRMING SO. SO MY POINT IS THAT THAT FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL ALONE GRADUATED APPROXIMATELY 800 STUDENTS. SO? SO TERRY HIGH SCHOOL AND LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL COMBINED. GRADUATED LESS STUDENTS THAN WHAT? FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATED. AND IF ANYONE HAS NOT RECENTLY BEEN OUT TO FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL, THERE ARE A LOT OF PORTABLES OUT THERE THAT UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T THINK ARE CONDUCIVE TO, TO BEING A GOOD LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO BE SO NECESSARY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND. SO MY POINT IS THAT THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE. I KNOW THAT IT CAN BE AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE WERE WE MAY RELOCATE TERRY HIGH SCHOOL IF THE BOND VOTERS APPROVED THE BOND. BUT IT'S REAL IMPORTANT ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO, TO REITERATE IS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT MR. BUCHANAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO REPURPOSE
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THOSE TERRY HIGH SCHOOL OR THOSE RED TRACK BUILDINGS, INCLUDING TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL IN NAVARRO SCHOOL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER. RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO GET INPUT, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH THIS. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT OF WHAT THOSE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN REITERATE THAT A LOT. A LOT OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT I NOTICED THAT IN YOUR SURVEY, THERE WERE ABOUT 60% OF THOSE WHO WHO COMPLETED THE SURVEY THAT DID NOT GO BACK TO WATCH OUR BOARD MEETING FROM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN WE INITIALLY DISCUSSED THIS. SO I'M HOPING THEY'RE TUNING IN NOW. AND I'M HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND CLARIFY IT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE JUST CONTINUE TO ASK THE SAME GENERAL QUESTIONS, AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS. THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THIS IS PART OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS PART OF HYPER GROWTH DISTRICT. AND I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING THIS. I SPENT A CAREER IN FINANCIAL PLANNING. AND THERE WAS AN OLD ADAGE AMONG, YOU KNOW, THAT I USED TO SHARE WITH MY CLIENTS THAT IT SAYS PEOPLE DON'T PLAN TO FAIL, THEY JUST FAIL TO PLAN. SO I COMMEND THIS BOARD AND YOUR WORK IN PUTTING THIS PLAN TOGETHER, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A PART OF KEEPING LCISD COMPETITIVE. AND A TOP RATED SCHOOL DISTRICT. THANK YOU. SO THE LAST SECTION OF OUR PROPOSITION A IS CAMPUS SUPPORT AND IT SUPPORTS ALL TRACKS.FIRST LINE IS LAND AND LAND DEVELOPMENT. THE BOARD ALSO KNOWS THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 39 PEAK AND BEECHNUT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CASES WHERE WE BOUGHT THE LAND, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT. THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT LEAVE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT THERE. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT LAND AND GET IT PREPPED FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS CURRENTLY WE EITHER HAVE UNDER CONTRACT OR WE'LL BE UNDER CONTRACT BEFORE THIS GOES OUT TO THE VOTERS. FOR EVERY PIECE OF STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. AND PART OF THIS BOND WILL ALREADY HAVE THE LAND. THIS IS TO BUY LAND FOR THE NEXT BOND. THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT, BE ABLE TO PUT THE ROADS, THE STREET UTILITIES, PUT THE DRAINAGE IN SOME OF THESE. IT'S TAKEN US UP TO 18 MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THESE. SO IT MAKES OUR SITE SHOVEL READY. THE NEXT IS PORTABLE BUILDINGS, IT'S MOVES AND NEW PORTABLES. WE WOULD LOVE TO GET OUT OF THE PORTABLE BUSINESS JUST TO INFORM THE BOARD. RIGHT NOW, IT TAKES US $300,000 TO MOVE A PORTABLE FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER. IT COSTS US $600,000 TO BUY A BRAND NEW ONE. THE NEXT WE HAVE IS VEHICLES, BUSSES, AND WHITE FLEET. THIS ALLOWS US TO ROLL THOSE EXPENSES EXPENSES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND BUY THESE LARGE CAPITAL OUTLAY EXPENSES OUT OF OUR BOND FUNDS. THE NEXT IS OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY. AND LASTLY IS OUR ROOF AND AIR CONDITIONING. I WILL INFORM THE BOARD IF YOU'LL NOTICE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT HAS CHANGED BETWEEN LAST BOARD MEETING AND THIS ONE. IT WENT FROM 169 MILLION TO 169,000,600 $656. THE REASON BEING WAS IS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND OUR BOND ATTORNEY SAID THAT WE SELL BONDS IN $10,000 INCREMENTS. SO THAT WAS A METHOD TO ROUND UP. SO EACH ONE OF THESE PROPOSITIONS HAVE BEEN ROUNDED UP TO THE NEAREST $10,000. SO THAT WAY IT MEETS WHAT WE NEED TO WHEN WE GO TO SELL A BOND. SO THESE ARE OUR ROOFING AND HVAC PROJECTS. THESE ARE BROKEN DOWN BY COLOR TRACK. MAJORITY OF THESE IF YOU'LL NOTICE AS WE GET TO OUR NEW CAMPUSES, WE HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF SERVER EQUIPMENT WITH NEW CAMERAS AND CARD READER BADGES AND WIRELESS ACCESS POINT DEVICES. THESE ARE FOR ALLOW US TO AIR CONDITION THOSE TECHNOLOGY ROOMS. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WE GOT FROM PROPOSITION A. WE ASKED HOW SUPPORTIVE ARE YOU OF THE PROPOSITION A WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDED. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, 78% IS EITHER SOMEWHAT OR STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF PROPOSITION A, AND ONLY 7% IS SOMEWHAT OR STRONGLY OPPOSED TO PROPOSITION A. THE OTHER QUESTION WE ASKED IS HOW SUPPORTIVE OF YOU OF THE PROPOSITION A ITEM REGARDING THE NEW TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, AND NAVARRO MIDDLE SCHOOL AT SPUR TEN AND CLOSTER ROAD, 59% ARE SOMEWHAT OR STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE, 15% ARE SOMEWHAT OR STRONGLY OPPOSED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEUTRAL OF 26%, ASSUMING THAT THOSE THOSE ARE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT THIS MOVE WOULD NOT AFFECT. SO THEY REALLY PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PROPOSITION A? BEFORE I BRING UP DOCTOR
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JONES TO DISCUSS PROPOSITION B? AND C WAS THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT AGAIN OF PROPOSITION.PROPOSITION A IS. 1,903,490,000. AND WE HAVE A SLIDE FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT BREAKS DOWN EVERY ONE OF THE PROPOSITIONS. BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DOCTOR NIVENS, ONE OF THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS. THE FIRST ONE HERE IS PROPOSITION B FOR TECHNOLOGY DEVICE REFRESH. ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, WE HAVE TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY ITEMS BE A SEPARATE ITEM ON A BOND PROPOSAL. SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS BROKEN OUT AS A SEPARATE PROPOSITION FOR PROP B TECHNOLOGY DEVICES. THIS WOULD IMPACT ALL TRACKS. IT WOULD BE, FIRST OF ALL, A TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT REFRESH, WHICH WOULD BE $43,880,000. AND THEN GRAPHIC ARTS UPDATES, WHICH IS $250,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $44,130,000. AS MR. BUCHANAN JUST MENTIONED, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED JUST SLIGHTLY TO BE IN THE $10,000 ROUND UP NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO WHEN SELLING A BOND FROM THE BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE. BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS HAD 100% SUPPORT FROM THOSE COMMITTEES. SO TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT REFRESH, JUST AS A REMINDER, IS WHAT THAT MEANS. TECHNOLOGY REFRESH IS REPLACING TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT THAT HAS AN EXPIRED WARRANTY OR IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED FOR SECURITY OR FUNCTIONALITY UPDATES. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPUTERS, WE'RE REFERENCING DESKTOPS, LAPTOPS, MONITORS, AND THEY ARE ALL PURCHASED WITH A FIVE YEAR WARRANTY. IPADS ARE NOT PURCHASED WITH A WARRANTY AND TYPICALLY HAVE A FIVE YEAR FUNCTIONAL LIFESPAN IS WHAT WE TRY AND GET OUT OF THOSE DEVICES. ITEMS THAT ARE DUE FOR REFRESH. YOU SEE, LAST SCHOOL YEAR, THERE ARE STILL SOME ITEMS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE REFRESHING FROM THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DEVICES ACROSS FOR EACH SCHOOL YEAR THAT WOULD COVER THE BOND. WE INCLUDED STUDENT LAPTOPS FOR 2028 2029, FOR A TOTAL OF 20,868 EXCUSE ME FOR JUST ABOUT 21,000 IPADS, ABOUT 21,000 STUDENT LAPTOPS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER AREAS INSIDE THERE AS WELL FOR THE GRAPHIC ARTS. JUST AS A REMINDER, THE GRAPHIC LAMAR ISD GRAPHIC ARTS DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS LARGE SCALE PRINTING NEEDS FOR THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING HIGH VOLUME PRINTING AND LARGE FORMAT PRINTING TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR REPLACEMENT OR ADDITIONAL NEED INCLUDE ONE LARGE FORMAT PRINTER REPLACING A LARGE VOLUME PAPER CUTTER, REPLACING A CUTTER CREASER PERFORATOR FOLDER MACHINE, AND REPLACING FOUR WACOM TABLETS. ESTIMATED COST. WHENEVER DEVELOPING THESE PRICES WAS BASED ON CURRENT QUOTES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET IN THE SPRING, WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 15% TO COVER ANY POSSIBLE PRICE INCREASES OVER TIME AND IMPLEMENTATION COSTS. MONITOR COSTS IS ABOUT $200. STUDENT LAPTOPS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $840. STUDENT DESKTOP 1000.
STAFF LAPTOP 1300. STAFF DESKTOP 1000. IPADS 350. AND THEN YOU SEE IN THE NEXT COLUMN THE 15% INCREASE THAT COVERS IMPLEMENTATION COSTS AND ANY POSSIBLE COSTS THAT COME OVER TIME AS THINGS INCREASE. OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THE ITEMS THERE, THE NUMBER OF DEVICES WE WOULD BE PURCHASING AND HOW WE TOTAL COSY END OF 44,125,008. DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BULK OF THE FUNDS WOULD BE GOING TOWARDS STUDENT LAPTOPS, AND THEN IT WOULD THEN BE IPADS STUDENT DESKTOPS. NEXT. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT PRICE OF STUDENT LAPTOPS. THE PRICE OF STUDENT LAPTOPS SEEMS HIGH. WHY ARE WE BUDGETING $840 FOR A STUDENT LAPTOP? THE COST OF A STUDENT LAPTOP HAS RISEN SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS. NOW IT'S BEEN 8 OR 9 MONTHS. ALTHOUGH BULK PURCHASING MAY HELP REDUCE THAT. WE WOULD TRY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS BEST WE COULD. WE'RE ALSO RESPONDING TO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE HEAR FROM OUR CAMPUSES THAT THEY WANT LARGER BATTERIES, SO THAT THE LAPTOPS THAT WE ARE NOW PURCHASING HAVE LARGER BATTERIES TO MEET EDUCATORS. REQUESTS FOR LONGER BATTERY LIFE SLIGHTLY INCREASES THE COST. AND UNLIKE A STANDARD CONSUMER DEVICES, STUDENT LAPTOPS ARE BUILT TO BE MORE DURABLE AND ALSO INCLUDE THAT FIVE YEAR ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE WARRANTY TO MINIMIZE LONG TERM REPAIR EXPENSES. EXPENSES THAT A FIVE YEAR ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE WARRANTY CAN BE 2 TO $300 ADDED ON THERE, BUT ENSURES WE CAN REPLACE THAT DEVICE EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS THROUGHOUT FOR THE LIFE OF THAT DEVICE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE GOTTEN IS WHAT ARE THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR OUR LAPTOPS? WE HAVE STUDENT LAPTOPS THAT COST AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE WAS $797. THEY COME WITH AN INTEL I5 PROCESSOR WITH TEN CORES. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE BRAINS OF THE DEVICE. AND THEN
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16GB OF RAM IS HOW IT THE MEMORY, THE LOCAL MEMORY IT CAN USE TO DO ITS PROCESSING. AND THEN 256GB OF SOMETHING CALLED A SOLID STATE DRIVE, WHICH IS ITS LONG TERM MEMORY. HOW LONG CAN IT HOLD ON TO THINGS? IT HAS A THREE CELL BATTERY WITH 55 WATT HOURS. THE HOPE IS THAT WITH GOOD MANAGEMENT, 55 WATT HOUR BATTERY IS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOL DAY AND THEY ARE 14 INCH DEVICE THAT ARE A TOUCH SCREEN. SO A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT OUR STAFF GET INSTRUCTIONAL LAPTOPS. YOU SEE THE PRICES THERE AS WELL AS THE ADMINISTRATOR LAPTOP. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IS GOING TO BE THE NUMBER OF CORES FOR THOSE DEVICES, AND THEN THE BATTERIES FOR OUR ADMINISTRATOR LAPTOPS. WE DO A LARGER BATTERY LIFE BECAUSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE USUALLY MOVING MORE AROUND THE CAMPUS. WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A SOLID BATTERY FOR THEM? A QUESTION WAS, COULD WE DO A CHEAPER INSTRUCTIONAL LAPTOP? THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THERE, BUT REALLY THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN SAVE MONEY IS GOING TO BE IN RAM AND EIGHT GIGABYTES OF RAM IS GOING TO IMPACT THE DEVICE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FUN DEVICE, PROBABLY FOR OUR INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERS, OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF TO UTILIZE.WHAT ARE THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR OUR DESKTOPS? OUR CURRENT DESKTOP MODEL IS ABOUT $958. AT THE EARLY IN EARLY JUNE. IT HAS AN I5 PROCESSOR WITH 14 CORES, SO A LITTLE BIT BEEFIER THAN OUR STUDENT LAPTOPS, 16GB OF RAM, AND THEY DO HAVE THAT CD, CD, DVD ROM THAT CAN BE HELPFUL IN THE CLASSROOM FUNCTIONS OF A LAMAR CISD STAFF COMPUTER. WHAT CAPABILITIES SHOULD A COMPUTER IN LAMAR ISD HAVE TO SUPPORT DAILY INSTRUCTIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMPUTER THAT CAN HANDLE MULTIPLE TASKS AT ONCE. NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RUN MULTIPLE WEB APPLICATIONS, SUCH AS SKYWARD CANVAS. OTHER ONLINE INSTRUCTIONAL TOOLS SUPPORT LOCALLY INSTALLED SOFTWARE LIKE WORD, EXCEL, POWERPOINT, OUR INTERACTIVE FLAT PANEL APPS, AND IT NEEDS TO OPERATE BACKGROUND TOOLS SUCH AS OUR CONTENT FILTER, OUR SYSTEM MONITORING AND MANAGEMENT TOOL SOFTWARE, WHICH WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, ANTIVIRUS AND SECURITY TOOLS. AND THEN IT NEEDS TO MAINTAIN SMOOTH MULTITASKING PERFORMANCE FOR SEAMLESS INSTRUCTION AND PRODUCTIVITY. I'VE HEARD OTHER DISTRICTS ARE USING CHROMEBOOKS. WHY AREN'T WE PURCHASING THOSE? WHILE CHROMEBOOKS ARE MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION, THEY TEND TO BE LESS DURABLE AND TYPICALLY COME WITH SHORTER WARRANTIES, TYPICALLY 3 TO 4 YEARS, OFTEN REQUIRING REPLACEMENT SOONER THAN A STANDARD LAPTOP. THEIR LIMITED ABILITY TO RUN INSTALLED APPLICATIONS, AND RELIANCE ON WEB BASED TOOLS CAN RESTRICT THEIR USEFULNESS FOR CERTAIN INSTRUCTIONAL NEEDS.
ADDITIONALLY, CHROMEBOOKS ARE MORE PRONE TO DAMAGE AND MAY NOT WITHSTAND DAILY STUDENT USE, AS WELL AS A STURDIER DEVICE. IMPLEMENTING CHROMEBOOKS IN LAMAR ISD WOULD ALSO REQUIRE BUILDING A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, INCREASING LOCAL BUDGET DEMANDS, WHILE MAINTAINING CURRENT SYSTEMS, REPURPOSING REFRESH DEVICES. SO WHAT DOES LAMAR ISD DO WITH THE COMPUTERS AND IPADS AFTER THEY ARE REFRESHED? AFTER DEVICES SUCH AS COMPUTERS AND IPADS ARE REFRESHED, LAMAR ISD SELLS THEM TO CERTIFIED RESELLERS. THE RESELLER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURELY WIPING ALL PRIVATE AND SENSITIVE INFORMATION FROM THE DEVICES. ONCE THAT DATA IS REMOVED, THE RESELLER EVALUATES THE CONDITION OF THE DEVICE AND PAYS THE ISD A CURRENT MARKET VALUE BASED ON ITS SALE. THE MOST RECENT ONE WE HAD WAS IN MAY 2025. WE SOLD 120 DESKTOPS AND RECEIVED $4,860. WE ALSO SOLD 201 LAPTOPS AND RECEIVED $6,001. HOW SUPPORTIVE ARE YOU IN PROPOSITION B? THIS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS PUT OUT IN THE SURVEY. YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBERS THERE THAT 77% EITHER STRONGLY SUPPORTED OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTED THIS PROPOSITION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OVER PROP B? TO OVERCOMMUNICATE FOR FOLKS WHO DIDN'T WATCH THE PREVIOUS MEETING? WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO SEND THESE LAPTOPS HOME WITH STUDENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR. ALL DEVICES WOULD STAY ON CAMPUS. YES. OKAY, THAT IS CORRECT. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IT, I APOLOGIZE. YES. SO THIS WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY A STUDENT. WOULDN'T BRING IT HOME TO CONTINUOUS HOMEWORK ON THE COMPUTER AT HOME. AND THIS PROPOSITION IS SPECIFICALLY JUST REFRESHING THE DEVICES WE HAVE. THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE THAT WOULD GET US TO A MORE 1 TO 1 NUMBER. BUT YOU ARE STILL CORRECT. THOSE DEVICES WOULD STAY ON CAMPUS. THEY WOULD NOT GO HOME. ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. PROPOSITION C, THE STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE, THE STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE FOR ALL TRACKS. THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD BE $10,690,000 AT THE BOND CITIZENS COMMITTEE, IT RECEIVED 73% APPROVAL. LAMAR. SEE ISD. THIS IS INFORMATION FROM. AT THE END OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR. OUR NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAD 36,459 STUDENT LAPTOPS AND 35,008 STUDENTS THAT WERE IN GRADES THREE THROUGH 12. A 1 TO 1 STUDENT LAPTOP RATIO IS POSSIBLE IF WE REALLOCATED AT THE END OF LAST SCHOOL YEAR. DEVICES BETWEEN CAMPUSES AND ADDITIONAL PURCHASES TO SUPPORT BREAK, FIX, AND ANNUAL ENROLLMENT INCREASES. THE LAMAR ISD STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE PROPOSAL DOES NOT SEND DEVICES HOME, SO WE ARE INTO THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. YOU SEE THE NUMBERS THERE. THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS IS THE TOP ROW THERE OF STUDENT
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ENROLLMENT FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH 12. AND THEN THE NUMBER BELOW THAT IS THE NUMBER OF LAPTOPS WE WOULD NEED AS A DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE AND BE AT THOSE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, PLUS 10% TO ENSURE THAT AS DEVICES BREAK DURING THE DAY, WE HAVE A DEVICE READY TO SWAP OUT SO THAT INSTRUCTION DOES NOT HAVE TO STOP. YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR, THAT NUMBER WE WOULD HAVE NEEDED WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT 2050 DEVICES. FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR, WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL 2079. OVER THE COURSE OF THE PLANS FOR THIS BOND PROPOSAL, WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL 11,065 DEVICES. THAT'S WHERE THE $10,688,790 COMES FROM. SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THIS INCREASING TOTAL DEVICES BENEFITS FOR TEACHERS. WHAT ARE SOME POTENTIAL BENEFITS FOR TEACHERS HAVING A LAPTOPS AVAILABLE FOR EVERY STUDENT IN THEIR CLASSROOM? PROVIDING EVERY STUDENT WITH A LAPTOP ENSURES CONSISTENT ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL DIGITAL TOOLS SUCH AS ONLINE TEXTBOOKS, CANVAS, AND OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL RESOURCES. THIS ACCESS ENABLES TEACHERS TO MORE EFFECTIVELY INTEGRATE TECHNOLOGY IN THEIR LESSON PLANNING, ENRICHING DAILY INSTRUCTION, AND BOOSTING STUDENT ENGAGEMENT. IN ADDITION TO SUPPORTING EVERYDAY LEARNING, THIS APPROACH ALSO FULFILLS THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY'S REQUIREMENT FOR ONLINE STAAR TESTING FOR GRADES THREE AND UP, GIVING STUDENTS REGULAR PRACTICE WITH DIGITAL ASSESSMENTS AND STRENGTHENING THEIR TESTING READINESS FOR OUR STUDENTS. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS FOR THEM? HAVING A LAPTOP IN THEIR CLASSROOM IS VALUABLE FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE IT HELPS THEM BUILD THOSE ESSENTIAL TECHNOLOGY LITERACY SKILLS, LIKE TYPING AND NAVIGATING DIGITAL TOOLS. IT ALSO PREPARES THEM FOR SUCCESS IN AN INCREASINGLY TECH DRIVEN WORLD BY GIVING THEM HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOOLS THEY'LL USE IN FUTURE CAREERS.ADDITIONALLY, REGULAR LAPTOP USE ENSURES THAT STUDENTS ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIGITAL PLATFORMS USED IN STATE MANDATED ONLINE ASSESSMENTS, GIVING THEM A BETTER CHANCE TO PERFORM CONFIDENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. WHAT IF A TEACHER DOESN'T WANT TO USE A LAPTOP IN THEIR CLASSROOM? TEACHERS 100% ARE OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE IN THE CLASSROOM. WITHOUT THEM, INSTRUCTION DOES NOT HAPPEN, AND A LAPTOP FOR EVERY STUDENT PROVIDES THE TEACHER WITH A KNOWN TOOL AVAILABLE TO EVERY STUDENT, BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE TEACHER TO USE THAT TOOL. IF A TEACHER WISHES TO NOT UTILIZE STUDENT LAPTOPS FOR A PARTICULAR LESSON, THE TEACHER HAS THE DISCRETION TO DO SO BY PROVIDING A LAPTOP TO EVERY STUDENT. THOUGH, WE GIVE THAT TEACHER PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT IF THEY DO WANT TO USE TECHNOLOGY FOR A PARTICULAR LESSON, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR HIS OR HER STUDENTS. WILL STUDENTS BE TAKING THEM HOME? NO, THEY WILL NOT. THE PLAN FOR LAMAR ISD STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE PROGRAM IS TO ENSURE DEVICES ARE AVAILABLE ON CAMPUS, BUT NOT CHECKED OUT TO GO HOME. THE DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY INVESTING SECURE, INVESTIGATING, SECURE ON CAMPUS STORAGE SOLUTIONS FOR STUDENT LAPTOPS. HOW SUPPORTIVE ARE YOU IN PROPOSITION B? PROPOSITION C FROM THE SURVEY, YOU CAN SEE THAT 79% OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED WERE EITHER STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROPOSITION.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON PROPOSITION C? YES, CHAD, CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME WHY WE'RE NOT WHY WE'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEM HOME? WHENEVER YOU ALLOW THEM TO GO HOME, YOU LOSE OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY OF THEM MAYBE NOT COMING BACK. AND SO NOW YOU HAVE SOME INSTRUCTIONAL STRUGGLES THERE. BY HAVING THEM ON CAMPUS, WE CAN CONTROL WHAT THEY'RE BEING, HOW THEY'RE BEING USED, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GETTING CHARGED EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
WE'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT INSURANCE THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO SEND HOME FOR STUDENTS FOR DEVICES LIKE THAT, THAT IT JUST MAKES IT A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR DEVICES AND FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND THEY CAN HAVE THEM. WE CAN ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THEM AVAILABLE FOR THEM DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE OKAY? PASS IT BACK TO MR. THANK YOU SIR. SO OUR LAST PROPOSITION THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT WAS PROPOSITION D TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS. AGAIN. THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT HAS BEEN ROUNDED UP TO THE TO THE NEAREST 10,000. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT $26,740,000. SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING AT TRAILER STADIUM. SO CURRENTLY TRAILER STADIUM SEATS 10,000. IN OUR CURRENT BLEACHER THAT WE HAVE. IT WAS PUT IN IN 1961 THAT ENGINEERING FIRM AND CONSTRUCTION FIRM ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. CURRENTLY, WE CAN'T GET ANY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO PROVIDE US DRAWINGS, TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR AND DO ANYTHING WITH THE BLEACHERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE RISKING THEIR CERTIFICATION AND LICENSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE DRAWINGS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS TAKING DOWN BLEACHERS ON THE VISITORS AND THE HOME SIDE. BY DOING THAT, OUR CURRENT BLEACHERS MEET THE 1961 BUILDING CODE. SO IF WE PUT BACK BLEACHERS, WE HAVE TO MEET THE 2025 OR IN THIS CASE, PROBABLY 2627, BUILDING CODE THAT REQUIRES SO MANY WHAT WE CALL DEVICES, WHICH WOULD BE A TOILET OR URINAL PER ATTENDEE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS, BOTH FOR MEN AND WOMEN. AND THE CONCESSION STANDS, ALONG WITH THE ADA ISSUES AND COMPLIANCE AS FAR AS BOTH OF THOSE GOES. ALSO, WHEN ADDING THAT OUR SOUND SYSTEM IS PART OF OUR BLEACHER SYSTEM. SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT UPGRADING THAT SYSTEM AS WELL AND UPDATING THE SCOREBOARD. SO WHEN WE PUT OUT THIS PROPOSITION
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DATA TO OUR COMMUNITY, HOW SUPPORTIVE OUR VIEW OF PROPOSITION D, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, 79% IS STRONGLY OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE. AND AGAIN, 10% IS EITHER STRONGLY OR SOMEWHAT OPPOSED TO PROPOSITION D. WE ALSO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME WE WERE POSSIBLY EXPLORING A SECOND STADIUM. SO IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN INVESTING BOND DOLLARS AND REPAIRING TRAYLOR STADIUM OR BUILDING A NEW STADIUM, WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER? AND AS YOU CAN SEE, 54% OF OUR SURVEY RESPONDENTS SAID BUILD A SECOND STADIUM, OVER 32% SAYING REPAIR TRAYLOR STADIUM, AND THEN YOU HAVE BASICALLY 14% THAT SAYS EITHER DO EITHER OR OTHER. SO WITH OUR ROUNDED DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSITION A WOULD BE 1,903,490,000, PROPOSITION B IS 44,130,000. THEN PROPOSITION C IS 10,690,000. AND AGAIN TRAYLOR STADIUM IS 26 SEVEN 26,740,000, FOR A TOTAL BOND OF. $1,985,050,000. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PROPOSITION D BEFORE MISS LUDWIG COMES AND SPEAKS ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO IT SAYS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATING, IMPROVING, UPGRADING. ET CETERA.ET CETERA. IN THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. WHY WOULDN'T WE SAY REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM? AND THEN I'M ASSUMING IF WE HAVE BOND SAVINGS, THEN WE WOULD USE THAT TO RENOVATE OR IMPROVE OTHER OTHER STADIUMS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DISTRICT? YES, MA'AM. FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE WILL WE WILL HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROPOSED BOND LANGUAGE. OKAY, FURTHER IN OUR DISCUSSION, BUT YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. SO WE CURRENTLY, AS A DISTRICT HAVE OUTSTANDING BONDS OF $3.096 BILLION. OUR INTEREST IN SINKING TAX RATE IS $0.48. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY DECREASED THE TOTAL TAX RATE ABOUT $0.12 OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, POST OAK MUNICIPAL ADVISORS, TO ESTIMATE THE COST OF THIS ELECTION. WITH 2 BILLION IN PROJECTS, WE HAVE USED VARIOUS ASSUMPTIONS OR VARIABLES AND HAVE MODELED ALL THE DATA THAT YOU'VE JUST SEEN.
AND WE HAVE ALSO CONSIDERED ANNUALLY SELLING BONDS WITH FOR ANNUAL SALES. AND WITH THAT, OUR TAX RATE WOULD NOT FOR INS, INTEREST IN SINKING WOULD NOT EXCEED $0.48 WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE NOW. GREG. SO BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT IS A OUR NUMBER ONE, THE NUMBER OF PROPOSITIONS THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING TO THE VOTERS.
NUMBER TWO, WHAT ORDER OF THOSE PROPOSITIONS WOULD GO IN ON THE BALLOT? AND NUMBER THREE, THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSITIONS. WE'LL GO THROUGH A DISCUSSION OF THIS. THE BOARD, AFTER YOU'VE MADE YOUR DECISIONS, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE MAYBE A FIVE, TEN MINUTE RECESS FOR OUR BOND ATTORNEY TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT THE LANGUAGE BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE, SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK AFTER THAT AND PRESENT THE MOTION TO YOU. SO NUMBER OF PROPOSITIONS IN ORDER.
SO THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF POSSIBLE OPTIONS. SO WE JUST WANT TO PUT SOME THINGS ON THE ON THE BOARD OPTION ONE YOU HAVE THE PROPOSITIONS JUST AS THEY WERE PRESENTED TONIGHT. OPTION ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE TRUSTEE ASKED HEY COULD YOU POSSIBLY PUT MAYBE TRAILER STADIUM AT THE TOP AND THEN REARRANGE THEM. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF JUST MOVING THEM ABOUT IN ORDER. IF YOU HAVE OPPOSITION TO OPTION TWO. AGAIN, THAT IS BOTH COMBINING BOTH TECHNOLOGY DEVICES. SO THE REFRESH AND THE STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE COMBINE THEM AS A SINGLE PROP. YOU COULD DO THAT. AND THEN OPTION TWO ON THE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WOULD AGAIN BE ABLE TO JUST REARRANGE THOSE AS WE LOOK FORWARD. WHAT DO WE THINK. YEAH OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. WELL I ASKED THE QUESTION AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR OUR BOND ATTORNEY. THE PSYCHOLOGY OF THE ORDER OF PROPOSITIONS IS WAS MY QUESTION IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR FIRM HAS DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THAT, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO REPAIR TRAILER STADIUM,
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OUR ONE DISTRICT STADIUM, AT LEAST IN TWO PREVIOUS BONDS, AND IT'S FAILED. AND SO THE QUESTION WAS, IS THERE ANY PSYCHOLOGY TO PUTTING IT FIRST MIGHT HELP GET IT PASSED? BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED THIS PAST. SO STEPHANIE LIBBY NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT BOND COUNSEL FOR THE DISTRICT, I DO NOT HAVE ANY PSYCHOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT. I WILL SHARE THAT HISTORICALLY STADIUM PROPOSITION STATEWIDE HAVE NOT HAD SUCCESSFUL PASSAGE RATES. SO IT IS AN ONGOING STRUGGLE NOT JUST FOR LAMAR CONSOLIDATED, BUT FOR DISTRICTS STATEWIDE. SOME DISTRICTS WILL CHOOSE TO PUT WHAT THEY THINK ARE GOING TO BE THE LESS DESIRABLE PROJECTS TOWARDS THE END OF THE BALLOT. SOME DISTRICTS HAVE GONE IN TO BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE.OBJECTIVE WITH HOW THEY NUMBER THEM, AND SO THEY'RE DOING BOND PROPOSITIONS FROM MOST EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION TO LEAST EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. SO THERE THERE REALLY IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER FOR HOW THE PROPOSITIONS THEMSELVES ARE ORDERED. I WILL OFFER WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL WANT TO COMBINE THOSE TWO PROPOSITIONS INTO ONE. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE, BECAUSE FOR THE TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS, WE DO HAVE MORE DETAILED LANGUAGE WITHIN THE BOND PROPOSITIONS, BECAUSE THERE IS A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT THAT A MEASURE CAN ONLY BE PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS ONE TIME ON THE ELECTION. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE KIND OF THESE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSITIONS. SO IF YOU DO DECIDE TO STAY WITH TWO TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS, WE WILL HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THOSE PROPOSITIONS IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT SO THAT THE VOTERS CAN TELL WHICH OF THE TWO PROPOSITIONS THEY'RE VOTING ON. I HAVE A QUESTION. A FOLLOW UP TO JOHN'S. ARE WE REQUIRED TO PULL OUT TRAILER STADIUM AND MAKE IT ITS OWN PROPOSITION, OR COULD WE COMBINE THAT WITH FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS? COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, OFFER A PROPOSITION, A NEW SCHOOLS AND FACILITY AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND REPAIRS? SO FOR STADIUMS, STADIUMS THAT HAVE MORE THAN A THOUSAND SEATS, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS TRAILER STADIUM HAVE TO BE THEIR OWN SEPARATE PROPOSITION, MORE THAN A THOUSAND SEATS, MORE THAN A THOUSAND SEATS, ANY STADIUM 600 THOUGH 6000. 6000. RIGHT. SO THERE WAS A STATE LAW CHANGE. AND SO YOU CAN HAVE GENERAL SCHOOL FACILITIES, TECHNOLOGY AS A STANDALONE PROPOSITION. IF YOU HAVE AN AUDITORIUM, STADIUMS WITH MORE THAN A THOUSAND SEATS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF STADIUMS. AND SO FORTH. SO TRAILER STADIUM WILL HAVE TO BE ITS OWN PROPOSITION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I ORIGINALLY WE WERE PRESENTED THE TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITION AS ALL ONE. AND THEN WE DECIDED IN THE COMMITTEE MAYBE OR MAYBE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TO MAYBE SEPARATE IT OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THE 1 TO 1 WE DIDN'T KNOW. BUT NOW I FEEL LIKE THINGS ARE DIFFERENT IN THE SURVEY RESULTS.
EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S A SMALL SAMPLING. IT KIND OF SURPRISES ME THAT PEOPLE WERE SO IN FAVOR OF THE 1 TO 1 INITIATIVE. SO NOW WHAT DO WE DO? WE THINK WE NEED TO SEPARATE IT OUT AND HAVE FOR PROPS. DID WE DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT? WAS THAT BEFORE IT WAS ACTUAL LAW WAS SIGNED? WE SAID WE I THINK IT WAS LIKE HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THIS WAS SIGNED WE WOULD SEPARATE IT. AND SO NOW THAT IT IS LAW, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE IT SEPARATED? BECAUSE NOW EVERYONE KNOWS ASSOCIATED TO. WHEN WE ADD THEM ALL TOGETHER. I JUST FEEL LIKE WHEN WE ADD THEM ALL TOGETHER, IT'S LARGER. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I APOLOGIZE WHEN THEY SEE A LARGER NUMBER, THEY VOTE NO. I THINK WE ALSO SAID WE DIDN'T WANT THE REFRESH, WHICH IS VERY MUCH NEEDED TO FAIL BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT THE 1 TO 1. OKAY. SO DO WE WANT FIRST OF ALL, DO WE WANT TO KEEP THEM SEPARATED BECAUSE THEN THAT TAKES AWAY AT LEAST TWO OPTIONS. I WOULD SAY YES TO SEPARATE KEEP THEM SEPARATE PROPS OKAY. SO THEN WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT TWO OF THE OPTIONS. SO THEN IT'S EITHER OF OPTION ONES. DO WE PUT TRAILER STADIUM FIRST OR ANY OPTION OF
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THAT. CAN WE PUT TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE TRAILER STADIUM. IT CAN BE REPAIRS. ALSO, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THESE ARE JUST TWO OPTIONS. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO ARRANGE THE FOUR, WE CAN ARRANGE THEM HOWEVER YOU WANT TO. SORRY. WELL GO AHEAD. I MEAN, WE'VE TRIED PUTTING TRAILER STADIUM AT THE BOTTOM EVERY TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR NOT, BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT TO TRY IT. PUTTING IT UP TOP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK THAT MEANS WHEN DOCTOR NIVENS GOES OUT AND HE CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST IT, BUT HE CAN GIVE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. THE FIRST THING HE CAN TALK ABOUT IS HOW IMPORTANT REPAIRING THAT ONE STADIUM IS, AND HOW MANY STUDENTS GO THROUGH THAT ONE STADIUM INSTEAD OF IT KIND OF BEING LOST, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES LATER IN THE DISCUSSION, THAT'S ONE IDEA. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO TRY IT ON AS PROP A PERSONALLY. OKAY. I THINK OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING TO LIKE HELP US PICK. SO DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? NO, I WOULD LIKE WHAT TRUSTEE WELCH SAID A AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.AND SO THAT TOP OPTION ONE ON THE RIGHT JUST FLIP FLOP C AND D MAYBE. SO PUT STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE LAST BECAUSE WE NEED THE TECHNOLOGY DEVICE REFRESH OKAY. SO OPTION A TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS OR PROP A PROP B NEW SCHOOLS AND FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS. PROP C TECHNOLOGY DEVICE DEVICES AND PROP D STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE. OKAY. AND SO IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO? THE BOND LANGUAGE. YES. SO NOW THE ATTORNEY CAN START LOOKING AT THAT. SO THE THIRD THING THAT WE ASK IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE WELL IS EVERYBODY DOES EVERYBODY THINK THAT'S MR. REYES. I AM SO RELUCTANT TO LEAD WITH THE STADIUM. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT SENDS A IT JUST I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAD WITH THE STADIUM. I MEAN, I KNOW I GET IT. BUT I, I FEEL I HAVE TO COME DOWN ON THE SIDE OF LEADING WITH NEW SCHOOLS AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT PUTTING IT AS B, THEN PUTTING NEW SCHOOLS AS A. I'M OKAY WITH B AS LONG AS IT SAYS TRAILER STADIUM IMPROVEMENT OR REPAIRS. IS THAT IS THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS? OKAY, SO SWITCHING THOSE TWO BUT NO. WELL AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS, I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO BE THE LONE HOLDOUT. I WANT TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT. I THINK IT'S ALL A GUESSING GAME. IT'S ALL WE'RE BECOMING THE PSYCHOLOGY EXPERIMENT. SUPERINTENDENT EVANS, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION? WE VALUE YOUR OPINION. WELL, I UNDERSTAND WHERE TRUSTEE WATTS IS COMING FROM. IT'S LIKE THE YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY, RIGHT? DOING THE SAME THING, EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT STATE, AS OUR ATTORNEY SAID, STADIUM BONDS HAVE FAILED THROUGHOUT THIS DISTRICT. I THINK 95% FAILURE RATE ACROSS ACROSS OUR STATE. AND SO WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES TO DO WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE BOND, WE WILL TAILOR MAKE OUR MESSAGE TO FIT EACH AUDIENC, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY AN AUDIENCE OF OUR BOOSTER CLUBS, OUR BOOSTER MEMBERS, AND WE WOULD PROBABLY TALK MORE ABOUT STATE AND REPAIRS THAN ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, AND PARENTS MAY TALK ABOUT MORE ABOUT SCHOOLS, BUT ALL OF IT WOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW WE WILL LEAVE THAT OUT. I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF THAT COIN. I CAN SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM SAYING IF THE IF TRAILER STADIUM IS WAS PROPOSITION A, THEN I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE FACEBOOK WARRIORS SAYING, SEE, THEY DON'T EVEN VALUE SCHOOLS.
THEY WANT THE STADIUM MORE. I IT CAN GO EITHER WAY. IT CAN GO EITHER WAY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION. THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO LEAD TO AT THE DETRIMENT OF THE OTHER IMPORTANT PRIORITIES. THAT'S MY PRIMARY AND HAVING THERE IS, I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF STADIUM
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ACTIVITIES. ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS WELL THAT EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT I'M AT THAT STADIUM IF WE'RE HAVING A GAME. BUT MY CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT IT TO BE AT THE DETRIMENT OF THE OTHER VERY IMPORTANT NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S THAT'S MAINLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM. THANK YOU.DOCTOR. I AGREE. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WERE YOU THAT YOU AGREE I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING. IT'S THE APPEARANCE OF IT. EVEN THOUGH OBVIOUSLY WE OUR PRIORITY IS SCHOOLS AND BUT THIS HAS BEEN HOW MANY TIMES ALREADY. YEAH I DO AGREE. SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. NOW. WELL IT IS LIKE THROWING DARTS IN THE DARK AND YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT THE BULL'S EYE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE WE DON'T KNOW I DON'T AS A VOTER, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER GONE IN AND SEEN THEM IN ORDER AND THOUGHT, OH, THIS IS OUR ORDER OF PRIORITY. SO I DON'T Y'ALL CAN I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION EITHER WAY. I MEAN, I JUST GO IN, I READ THEM, AND THEN I DECIDE IF I WANT THEM OR NOT. I MEAN, THAT'S USUALLY HOW I DO IT, BUT IN MY HEAD, THE, THE 1.9 BILLION PROP, THE BIGGEST ONE SHOULD BE FIRST. IT'S THE BIGGEST, IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE. AND THEN THEN WE'RE SAYING TRAILER. I MEAN TRAILER REALLY IS A PRIORITY. IT IS OUR ONLY STADIUM AND IT NEEDS REPAIRS. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO JUST OKAY. SO PROP B A AND THEN D AND C. YES OKAY. D A D. SO JUST TO RECAP JACKIE, CAN YOU READ THEM OFF. WHAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. SO PROP A WILL BE NEW SCHOOLS AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. PROP B WILL BE TRAILERS STADIUM REPAIRS. PROP C WILL BE TECHNOLOGY DEVICES AND PROP D WILL BE THE STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE. OKAY. SO THEN DO I NEED TO CALL FOR 5 TO 10 MINUTES OR NO. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROPOSITION LANGUAGE.
THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO OKAY. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSITION LANGUAGES. SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE RED LETTERING IN THE IN OPTION ONE, IT IS A MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THE BOND LANGUAGE. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IT USED TO YOU COULD PUT ALL OF THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IN ALL CAPS. THEY CAME IN AND SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND YOU COULD PUT THIS IS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE AS PART OF THE BOND LANGUAGE. THEY ARE NOW REQUIRING IT TO BE AT THE VERY FRONT IN ALL CAPS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO BE IN NORMAL FONT AS FAR AS UPPER AND LOWER CASE. SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES ON THAT ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. AND I THINK THE WHOLE BOARD HAS BEEN WITH ME AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND THE BOARD, AND I'VE GONE WITH THE BOARD TO ADVOCATE. AND AS MISS LUDWIG SAID, IN OUR IN OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS HERE, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE OUR TAX RATE. BUT THIS SAYS IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE OUR DEBT. AND SO SOME DISTRICTS IN THE PAST WERE CREATIVE AND MADE SENSE. THIS IS A TAX INCREASE. HAD TO BE ALL CAPS. THEY MADE EVERYTHING ALL CAPS. SO YOU KNOW WE DIDN'T DO THAT. BUT NOW BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED NOW THE STATE LAW HAS SAID THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE IN ALL CAPS. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO BE CASE SENSITIVE.
BUT ALSO NOW YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT TO THE FRONT OF THE VERY FIRST THING IN THE PARAGRAPH. SO IT'S THE VERY FIRST THING THAT OUR VOTERS SEE IS THAT THIS IS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. AND SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES ON THAT. JUST ONE MINOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE WE DID GET SOME GUIDANCE LAST WEEK FROM THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. AND SO WHEN WE HAD THIS LANGUAGE ORIGINALLY, WE DID MOVE IT TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPOSITION. THE GUIDANCE WE GOT FROM THEM LAST WEEK WAS ACTUALLY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE PROPOSITION. AND SO WHAT THE VOTERS ARE SAYING, YOU WILL HAVE AN ACTUAL LINE BREAK. SO WE'LL HAVE PROPOSITION A AND THIS IS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE AT THE TOP. AND THEN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR THE PROPOSITION ITSELF WILL START WITH THE VERBIAGE RELATING TO THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE BONDS AND THE PROJECTS. SO THE FORMAT WILL BE THE FORMAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW IT'S PROVIDED HERE. IT'LL BE SEPARATE. IT'LL BE SEPARATE.
THEY'LL THERE'LL BE A HARD RETURN BECAUSE THEY'VE INSTRUCTED US THAT IT SHOULD BE AT THE TOP, NOT AT THE BEGINNING. AND SO WE'VE PLACED IT AT THE TOP. I REALLY WISH THE LEGISLATURE HAD SAID THIS IS A PROPERTY, THIS IS A THIS IS A DEBT INCREASE, NOT A PROPERTY TAX, BECAUSE THEY IMPLIES WE'RE INCREASING THE TAX RATE. BUT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE
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NOT. BUT BUT WE ARE INCURRING MORE DEBT AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THAT IS A MORE ACCURATE LANGUAGE. AND I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE. AND WE ADVOCATED FOR THAT IN AUSTIN IN, IN THE LANGUAGE, CAN WE SAY YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE WILL NOT INCREASE? WE CANNOT. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY EXPLICIT IN SAYING THAT THESE STATUTORY WORDS ARE THE ONLY STATUTORY WORDS THAT CAN BE USED, AND THAT THE LANGUAGE CANNOT IN ANY WAY BE QUALIFIED AND MODIFIED OR EXPLAINED WITHIN THE PROPOSITION ITSELF. I THINK THE ONE SAVING GRACE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN UNDER THIS REQUIREMENT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN BOND ELECTION CYCLES. NOW THIS IS ROLLING OUT SO THAT IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO BOTH CITIES, COUNTIES AND OTHER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE BOND ELECTIONS. SO YOU WILL HAVE A MORE UNIFORM MESSAGE COMING FROM OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ABOUT THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND THE ACTUAL TAX RATE IMPACTS. AND THEN JUST I'LL, I'LL JUST GO ON THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LANGUAGE. SO THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN RED IS KIND OF THE, THE DISCRETIONARY LANGUAGE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. SO WE CAN MODIFY THIS. HOWEVER YOU ALL WOULD LIKE. WHAT WE DID IS WE JUST KIND OF GROUPED THEM BY PROJECTS AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. THE HARD BRACKETS SHOW WHAT'S THE DISCRETIONARY LANGUAGE WITHIN THE HARD BRACKETS AS IT RELATES TO THE SCHOOLS WE'VE ENUMERATED HOW MANY OF EACH SCHOOLS ARE PROPOSED. YOU COULD OR COULD NOT INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOUR VOTERS AS WELL. FOR ANY PROJECT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED, THE AG'S OFFICE WILL REQUIRE THAT THOSE THAT THOSE FACILITIES BE FUNDED FIRST. AND SO IF WE TAKE OPTION ONE OR THE GENERAL PROPOSITION FOR GENERAL SCHOOL FACILITIES, YOU HAVE GENERAL SCHOOL FACILITIES, WHICH WOULD BE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THOSE THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO PROJECTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED BEFORE WE MOVE TO ANY OTHER SCHOOL FACILITIES. SO IF WE HAVE TWO NEW HIGH SCHOOLS, THE AG'S OFFICE, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, WHEN WE GO FOR BOND REVIEW AND APPROVAL, WE'LL WANT TO KNOW THAT THOSE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS HAD BEEN CONSTRUCTED BEFORE WE BUILT, SAY, THE EIGHTH NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU ALL. SO ACCORDING NOT ACCORDING TO OUR CALENDAR THAT WE'RE PROJECTING OF WHEN WERE THINGS GOING TO ORDER, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, SINCE THE HIGH SCHOOLS WERE LISTED FIRST. THAT'S JUST IF YOU WANT TO EXCEED, IF YOU WANT TO EXCEED, IF YOU WANT TO EXCEED WHAT'S PROPOSED. AND SO THE MORE SPECIFIC YOU ARE AT THIS POINT, THE LESS DISCRETION YOU HAVE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE, THE MORE GENERAL YOU ARE AT THIS POINT, THE MORE DISCRETION IS RETAINED FOR THIS BOARD OR FUTURE BOARD WHEN THE PROJECTS ACTUALLY COME ONLINE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE PROPOSED THE LANGUAGE IN THIS MANNER. SO YOU ALL CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY INCLUDING SEVEN NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OR WE CAN JUST SAY INCLUDING NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OR WE CAN TAKE EVERYTHING IN BRACKETS OUT TOGETHER AND JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR NEW SCHOOL FACILITIES, I WILL SAY, AND IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE ASK TO THE VOTERS THAT THERE IS SOME AMOUNT OF DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSITION, AND THAT YOU DON'T GO WITH JUST A GENERAL SCHOOL FACILITIES BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSITION. BUT THE ORDER OF THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE COULDN'T IMMEDIATELY START ON ROOF AND HVAC. EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE ORDER, IT'S NOT THE ORDER OF THE LANGUAGE. IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED. YOU'D HAVE TO DO THOSE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU WENT TO A PROJECT THAT WAS NOT ENUMERATED. OKAY. OKAY, I'M GONNA DO THAT ANYWAY. YEAH.OKAY. SO. THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? I LIKE TAKING THE COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T I DON'T SEE I DO AS WELL AND NOT ENUMERATING. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT PUT THE NUMBER THE RED LETTERS. YES, BUT NOT SO. I THINK I WOULD INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE BRACKETS. AND SO I THINK FOR THE BOARD TO DECIDE, AND MAYBE
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IT'S BASED ON PLANNING. NO. SO LET'S BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR OKAY. SO LET'S BE AN EXAMPLE. SO WE'RE AT THE RED SAYS INCLUDING SEVEN NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THE NUMBER THE WORD SEVEN IS WHAT IN YOUR OPINION THAT IS THE YOU'RE SAYING DO DO INCLUDE THAT OR DO NOT INCLUDE THAT. SO I THINK THE OUTER BRACKETS I SAY WE INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ENCOMPASSED BY THE OUTER BRACKETS WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUMBER OF EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY. SO YOU CAN EITHER INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, OR YOU CAN OMIT THAT. AND THE RE AGAIN, THE REASON TO OMIT IT IS IF YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT YOU MAY NEED AN EIGHTH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BEFORE YOU NEED THE SECOND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT. THAT WOULD PRESERVE SOME FUTURE FLEXIBILITY. IF THE DEMOGRAPHICS DON'T COME ONLINE EXACTLY AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED, AND THERE'S FLEXIBILITY THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE TO BE BUILT. CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER? DID YOU SAY WE NEED TO HAVE ALL SEVEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION BEFORE WE WOULD START THE SECOND OR THE FIRST OR SECOND MIDDLE SCHOOL OR. NO. SO YEAH. SO IT'S NOT THE THIS IS NOT AN ORDER OF PRIORITY, OKAY. IT'S JUST THAT OKAY. SO BOARD OF TRUSTEES CURRENTLY WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT. AND WE COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND IT WAS UNDER BUDGET, THEN IT GOES INTO AVAILABLE SAVINGS OKAY. AND THEN SOMETIMES WE COME TO YOU AND SAY CAN WE USE AVAILABLE SAVINGS TO REPLACE A CHILLER OR TO DO THESE OTHER THINGS BY THIS LANGUAGE BEING SPECIFIC AND NUMERAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO TOUCH ANY OF THE AVAILABLE SAVINGS COMING OFF ANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IF YOU SAY SEVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU CAN'T BUILD THE EIGHTH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BEFORE YOU FINISH THE REST OF THE STUFF. RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. SO INSTEAD OF INCLUDING SEVEN NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST SAY INCLUDING NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, NEW MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND JUST TAKE THE NUMERATION OUT OF THE BRACKETS.WHEN WE DO THAT, THAT TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE DESPERATION THAT WE'RE FEELING. THAT PSYCHOLOGY PIECE BEHIND IT SAYING LIKE, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND THE DISTRICT MEETINGS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO SHOW UP TO THE POLLS THAT HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING. MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO ATTEND THOSE TOWN HALLS OR THIS COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE LIST A NUMBER OF SEVEN, I MEAN, LIKE THAT'S PEOPLE SEE THE GROWTH AND THEY FEEL THE GROWTH, BUT WHEN THEY SEE IT, THEY'RE LIKE, THERE IS SOME DESPERATION THERE. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK REAL PERSONALLY FOR THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I WENT IN AND VOTED FOR THE NEW SCHOOL FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND KNOWING THAT IT KEPT YOU CAN KEEP PUSHING IT, YOU CAN KEEP PUSHING IT. AND SO IF YOU LOCK YOURSELF INTO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME BACK AND HOLD YOU TO IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WHERE IS THAT THAT YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD? AND LIKE THEY SAID, WE DON'T KNOW FOR 100% FACT THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE EXACTLY SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS COULD GO UNDER TOMORROW. AND WE ARE NOW SAYING THAT WE ARE DOING THESE SEVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. WE DON'T KNOW THAT WITH COMPLETE CERTAINTY TO SAY THAT. SO WHEN IT COMES TO AN EXAMPLE LIKE THAT, HAD WE USED THIS LANGUAGE AND THEN FOUND OUT THAT WE COULDN'T BUILD AT PEAK AND BEECHNUT, WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SWITCH IT TO 41 STILL? SO YOU WOULD BE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME OF THAT FUTURE DISCRETION. IT'S NOT QUITE AND I DON'T I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE AS LOCKED IN BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE, RIGHT, YOU HAVE DISTRICT WIDE RENOVATIONS, ADDITIONS AND SAFETY AND SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT'S BUILT IN TO THAT LANGUAGE. IT WOULD JUST BE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ENTIRELY NEW FACILITY. RIGHT. SO THERE IS BOARD DISCRETION BUILT INTO THIS LANGUAGE ALREADY. IT'S JUST THE IDEA OF BRINGING ON AN ENTIRE NEW FACILITY. WHEN YOU USE THE NUMBERS IN THE PROPOSITION. OKAY. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE DESCRIPTIVE AND THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE THAT SHOWS HOW MANY WE ACTUALLY NEED FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GOING TO ATTEND A MEETING OR WATCH A BOARD MEETING. AND IF IT DOES LEAVE IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. WE CAN
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USE SAVINGS. WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BUILD ANY NEW CAMPUSES BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED NOW. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I MEAN, WE'RE PRETTY POSITIVE THAT I MEAN, ALL THESE ARE GOING TO GET BUILT. WE NEED THEM. WE THEY HAVE TO GET BUILT. SO. I JUST DON'T WANT ACCIDENTALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE BEFORE STAFF CAN PUT TOGETHER THE WORDING? CAN THEY NOT PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED WORDING SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT MORE SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE? COULD WE NOT GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT BREAK JUST TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER A WORDING UNDER EACH SCENARIO AND THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT MORE SPECIFICALLY, WOULD THAT WORK? YEAH, I YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO HERE SO THAT I CAN RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL FOR HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THE WORDING TO LOOK. DO YOU NEED US TO VOTE FIRST BEFORE YOU YOU PUT WORDING TOGETHER OR COULD YOU PUT WORDING TOGETHER. IS THIS FEEDBACK? YEAH OKAY OKAY. WE'RE GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION OUR FEEDBACK NOW SO THAT SHE CAN GO DO THAT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO VOTE AFTERWARDS. YEAH. THAT'S SO THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING. OKAY. WE'RE DECIDING WHETHER TO LOCK IN WITH A NUMBER OR NOT OKAY.WELL THEN IN THAT CASE I WOULD NOT ENUMERATE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT LOCKS YOU IN. SO YOU WOULD PREFER OPTION TWO WHERE IT'S MORE GENERAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE A DESCRIPTIVE. NO NO NO. THAT NO.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK GEORGE IS SAYING. HE WOULD PREFER OPTION TWO. I BELIEVE THAT SHE IF YOU ELIMINATE, FOR EXAMPLE, SEVEN WITHIN THE TOP OPTION ONE. YEAH. THEN THAT THAT THAT DOES NOT LOCK US INTO SEVEN. SO WHAT SHE'S SAYING ENUMERATE IS OPTION ONE AND THEN WITHOUT IT IS OPTION TWO. CORRECT. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A THIRD OPTION RIGHT. SO WE'LL SAY WE'LL SAY OPTION ONE A YES WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE ALL IN RED WITH THE NUMBERS IN BRACKETS. OPTION ONE B WOULD BE THE LANGUAGE IN RED, OMITTING THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN BRACKETS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING. AND THEN OPTION TWO WOULD BE REMOVING EVERYTHING IN RED IN ITS ENTIRETY. YES. OKAY.
SO I THINK MOST OF US ARE WITH OPTION ONE B WHERE WE JUST REMOVE THE NUMBERS. YES OKAY OKAY. SO LET'S GO WITH THAT. IS IT DO WE HAVE TO VOTE. NO NO OKAY. SHE HAS THE FEEDBACK. SO SHE'S GOING TO WORK ON THAT ONCE WE GO OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSITION B. AND THIS WILL NOW BE PROPOSITION C. AND AGAIN HERE BECAUSE THE TWO TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS WOULD REMAIN SEPARATE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL INCLUDE THE DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN RED, SO THAT THE VOTERS ARE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITIONS. BECAUSE IF WE TAKE THAT LANGUAGE OUT, THE LANGUAGE THAT THE VOTERS WOULD SEE WOULD BE IDENTICAL. OKAY. SO OPTION ONE FOR THAT ONE. YES. OKAY. PROPOSITION C, WHICH IS PROPOSITION D, SAME THING BECAUSE THIS IS THE OTHER TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITION. AND THEN PROPOSITION. SORRY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID EARLIER THAT THE AG'S OFFICE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT LANGUAGE IS CLEARLY DESIGNATES WHICH ONE IS WHICH. AND SO THIS LANGUAGE YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRESENTING HERE MEETS THAT CRITERIA THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
YES. THE BOARD CHOOSES TO KEEP THOSE TWO SEPARATE. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE THE PRIOR PROPOSITION WE HAD RIGHT. KIND OF THE REPLACEMENT OF CURRENT TECHNOLOGY DEVICES. AND WE'VE ENUMERATED THOSE DEVICES THAT WILL BE REPLACED. AND THEN MOVING TO THE OTHER PROPOSITION, WE HAVE STUDENT LAPTOPS WHICH WOULD IMPLEMENT THE 1 TO 1 STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE OKAY.
SO OPTION ONE ON THAT ONE DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY THREE THROUGH 12. WE YOU DO NOT. YOU COULD BUT YOU DO NOT NEED TO OKAY. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA THOUGH BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE TRULY NOT GOING 1 TO 1 K-12. WE'RE GOING 1 TO 1 THREE THROUGH 12. RIGHT. BUT THE DISTRICTS 1 TO 1 STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE IS FOR GRADES 3 TO 12. SO IT'S BUILT IN TO WHAT THE DISTRICT'S INITIATIVE
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IS. SO BUT AGAIN YOU HAVE DISCRETION WITHIN THE LANGUAGE. AND SO IF YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH 12, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT WITH THE MEDIUM TO WOULD IT ALIENATE K THROUGH TWO OR, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF THE PARENTS WHO THINK MY K THROUGH TWO DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON A LAPTOP, I DON'T WANT THEM ON A IPAD. MY IT MIGHT HELP.THERE'S TWO SIDES TO IT. YEAH. SO IF YOU INCLUDE GRADES THREE THROUGH 12, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK. AND USE THE DEVICES FOR K ONE THROUGH TWO. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT REPEAT THAT AGAIN.
YEAH. SO IF YOU SAY FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH 12 THEN THESE MONIES ARE DEDICATED FOR LAPTOPS FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH 12. AND YOU COULDN'T LATER COME BACK AND USE TO BUY IPADS FOR K THROUGH TWO. OKAY. SO THEN PROBABLY NOT DO THAT THEN DON'T PIGEONHOLE US OKAY. SO OPTION ONE AS IS. OKAY.
AND THEN FOR THE REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. SO THIS IS NOW PROPOSITION B. AND SO AGAIN WE HAVE THE INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM IN BRACKETS. QUESTION WAS ASKED EARLIER IS IF WE COULD ADMIT OMIT THE SPORTS STADIUM RIGHT. AND JUST SAY REWORD THIS PROPOSITION SO THAT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC FOR REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES, WE CAN REWORK THE PROPOSITION SO THAT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. BUT GOING BACK TO THE MORE SPECIFIC YOU ARE WITHIN THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE, THE LESS DISCRETION YOU HAVE AS IT RELATES TO ANY EXCESS BOND FUNDS. AND SO IF YOU VOTE THE PROPOSITION ONLY FOR REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM, THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT THE MONIES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR. AND IF YOU HAD EXCESS BOND PROCEEDS, YOU COULD NOT IMPLEMENT IT, IMPLEMENT THEM AT ANY OTHER STADIUMS WITHIN THE DISTRICT. COULD COULD WE AT LEAST PUT THE REPAIRS TO STADIUM TO TRAILER STADIUM FIRST IN THE LIST? I MEAN, SINCE THAT'S WHAT THE BOND IS TRULY ABOUT. AND THEN THE OTHER STUFF THE CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATING, IMPROVING OTHER STADIUMS. IF WE HAVE BOND SAVINGS AFTER, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S AN AFTERTHOUGHT HERE, INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. BUT THE MAIN POINT OF THE BOND IS TO REPAIR TRAILER STADIUM SO IT IS USABLE AND FUNCTIONAL, AND ITS FULL CAPACITY AS OUR MAIN STADIUM IN THE IN THE DISTRICT. SO, SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF REPAIRS TO TRAILER, TRAILER, STADIUM AND DESIGNING AND DESIGNING RENOVATING. BUT AT THAT POINT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS WITHIN THE PROPOSITION. IF YOU INCLUDE THE.
AND I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO IF YOU WANTED TO NARROW, WE COULD TAKE OUT. WE COULD TAKE OUT ACQUIRING. FROM THE VERBIAGE BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEW PROPERTY THAT'S BEING ACQUIRED THROUGH THAT. BUT I THINK WE'D WANT TO KEEP IN THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. RENOVATING AND IMPROVING ARE BOTH VERBS THAT WOULD DESCRIBE THE REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS. AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE USE THE VERBS THAT WE USE IS THAT. IT MAKES COMMUNICATION AFTER THE BOND IS CALLED, MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING WHAT IS ELECTIONEERING AND WHAT IS FACTUAL INFORMATION. AND SO IF YOU HAVE VERBS WITHIN THE PROPOSITION THAT TALK ABOUT UPGRADING, UPDATING AND IMPROVING, WHEN YOU GO TO THE VOTERS AND YOU TELL THEM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO UPGRADE, UPDATE AND IMPROVE, THAT'S FACTUAL BECAUSE IT'S BUILT INTO THE BOND. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE WORDS BUILT INTO THE PROPOSITION, THEN IT COULD BE VIEWED AS ELECTIONEERING. WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE UPGRADES AND UPDATES THAT ARE PROPOSED. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BELTS AND SUSPENDERS. IT'S A LOT OF WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT IS BASED ON PAST PRACTICE AND GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM TEXAS ETHICS, OPINIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT IN RELATION TO BOND ELECTIONS. SO QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. THE TITLE OF THE PROPOSITION. CAN IT SAY TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS OR REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM?
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BECAUSE THEN IN THE ACTUAL CONTEXT OR CONTENT INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM CAN BE THERE IF THEY SEE IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING. THAT THIS PROPOSITION IS FOR REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. CAN YOU TITLE THAT THAT WAY? SO WE WOULD GO IN AND TITLE EACH OF. WE'D GO IN AND TITLE EACH OF THE PROPOSITIONS RELATED FOR HOW THEY ARE, AND WE CAN DO THAT.AND SO TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS OR REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM CAN BE A TITLE ON THE BOND BALLOT. WE WOULD SAY YEAH, WE WOULD SAY PROPOSITION A GENERAL SCHOOL FACILITIES. PROPOSITION B REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM. PROPOSITION C TECHNOLOGY REFRES. PROPOSITION D 1 TO 1 DEVICES.
QUESTION WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED ELECTIONEERING IF WE ADDED SOME SOME WORDING TO INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM? IN ORDER TO ENHANCE SECURITY AND ENSURE CODE COMPLIANCE? SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. IS THAT CONSIDERED ELECTIONEERING OR IS THAT FACTUAL? I THINK THAT WOULD COULD BE FACTUAL. OKAY. BECAUSE I JUST BELIEVE THAT CONVEYS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT WE'VE HEARD AND WHAT THE VOTER NEEDS TO HEAR IN ORDER TO BE TO UNDERSTAND AND PUT THIS MATTER INTO PERSPECTIVE. SO IF IT'S FACTUAL, I'D SUGGEST THAT WE INCLUDE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS IN ON THE REPAIRING PORTION AND AGAIN, THE DESPERATION BEHIND IT, BECAUSE IN THE PAST, PREVIOUS BONDS, IT WAS IMPROVING, IT WAS UPGRADING. SO EVEN IF WE WERE IMPROVING AND UPGRADING TO THE END AND JUST WE NEED TO HIT HARD REPAIR, WE GOT TO MA'AM, ARE WE ABLE TO START OUT WITH THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE, VERY FACTUAL. SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF WE LAMAR. SEE, ISD HAS ONE DISTRICT STADIUM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN HIGH SCHOOLS. I'M TRYING I'M WANTING TO EDUCATE THE IGNORANT VOTER WHO WILL BE VOTING ON THIS. IGNORANT DOESN'T MEAN STUPID OR FOOLISH. IT MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE INFORMATION AND THEY'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY GO IN THE BOOTH AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT IS DONE ACROSS THE STATE. NOPE. SPORTS STADIUM. I'M TRYING TO CONVEY TO THEM THAT WE HAVE ONE STADIUM THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE. HAVE REPAIRS AND EVERYTHING DONE TO IT. SO I'M WONDERING, WOULD A LANGUAGE ALLOWS SOME SIMPLIFICATION LIKE THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING? NO. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY IT DOESN'T. BUT WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT IN THE PROPOSITION AND WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT IN THE BALLOT IS A QUESTION TO THE VOTERS. AND FROM WHAT WE FROM WHAT WE DO, YOU SEE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, FIVE LINES LONG, BUT IT'S ONE SENTENCE AND IT'S A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE ONE SENTENCE. AND SO IT'S A QUESTION TO THE VOTERS TO AUTHORIZE THE BONDS IN A SPECIFIC AMOUNT FOR DESIGNATED PROJECTS AND VOTING THE TAX. OKAY. CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES, MA'AM. AT THE END OF INCLUDING REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM IN ORDER TO ENSURE SAFETY OR ENHANCE SAFETY AND TO ENSURE CODE COMPLIANCE. FULL CODE COMPLIANCE OR SOME SOME VERBIAGE ALONG THOSE LINES TO AVOID GREG HAS EXPLAINED TO US, IS MR. BUCHANAN HAS EXPLAINED TO US THAT HIS WOULD BRING US IN COMPLIANCE WITH WITH THE CODE STANDARDS. SO IS THAT SO? YES. AND I THINK I CAN WORK WITH THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SAY ENHANCED SAFETY AT THE STADIUM. I THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE REPAIRS TO THE STADIUM AND I'LL USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN INCLUDING BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY USED INCLUDING. BUT WE'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, IN ESSENCE, INCLUDING SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO ENSURE CODE COMPLIANCE, I BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW SAFETY SHOULD BE INCLUDED. THE WITH THE SPIRIT IS TO INCLUDE SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOTER UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE'S A LOGICAL REASON FOR THESE REPAIRS FIRST. YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. IF WE CAN WORK WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
OPTION ONE. BUT THAT LANGUAGE OKAY. IS THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT BRINGS US TO OUR
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QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THROUGH THIS I BELIEVE THAT THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. SO IF WE CAN TAKE MAYBE A TEN MINUTE RECESS AND LET HER BE ABLE TO DRAFT THE LANGUAGE, THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. JUST TEN MINUTES. ENOUGH. OKAY, OKAY. SO WE WILL TAKE OUR BREAK. CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION. SO, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WE HAVE MET WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. SO WE HAVE ARRANGED THIS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE BOND LANGUAGE. ALSO IS THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION BELOW IT AS DOCTOR JONES WILL SLOWLY SCROLL THROUGH THIS, ALL THIS THIS INFORMATION MUST BE DISPLAYED BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION FOR ANY KIND OF BOND ELECTION. SO AGAIN THIS IS PROPOSITION A WHICH IS OUR MAIN PROPS. IT HAS A LISTING OF ALL THE SCHOOLS, BUT WE TOOK OUT THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT IT WAS TO INCLUDE. OKAY. IF YOU SCREW UP IT IS THE ONE 1,000,000,900, $3,490,000.AGAIN, THIS IS THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION TALKING ABOUT PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST COMBINED.
IF YOU'LL KEEP SCROLLING CHAD TO THE VERY BOTTOM. THAT IS ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA BUILT INTO PROPOSITION A. IF YOU GO TO PROPOSITION C, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE COMPUTER REFRESH DEVICE REFRESH THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN AGAIN BELOW THAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND THEN THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. THE NEXT WILL BE PROPOSITION D WHICH WOULD BE OUR STUDENT DEVICE INITIATIVE. BELOW THAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AGAIN PRINCIPAL INTEREST. AND THEN FINALLY YOU HAVE PROPOSITION B WHICH IS OUR TRAILER STADIUM.
THAT THEY WERE. OKAY. SO YOU GE. 240,240,172. OKAY, I'LL READ IT ALL OKAY. OKAY. SO. WE CHANGED ON PROPOSITION B SO IT LOOKS THE SAME UNTIL YOU GET TO THE BRACKETS, INCLUDING REPAIRS AND SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS TO TRAILER STADIUM. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY I MEAN, IS THAT THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU WERE THINKING? YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, I LIKE IT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT. THE FOCUS ISN'T ON TRAILER STADIUM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT'S THIS? WHAT'S THIS ABOUT THAT DOCTOR JONES? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TRAILER STADIUM MENTIONED EARLIER BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BRACKETS. IT SOUNDS. LIKE IT'S NOT THE FOCUS. COULD WE COULD WE NOT SAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF REPAIRS AND SAFETY AND THEN INCLUDING DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATING, IMPROVING LIKE STILL USE THE VERBS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT JUST SWITCH THE ORDER. KIND OF LIKE THE BONDS FOR THE PURPOSES OF REPAIRS AND SAFETY. AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS TO TRAILER STADIUM, INCLUDING DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATING, IMPROVING, UPGRADING, UPDATING, ACQUIRING, EQUIPPING SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT. THEY INCLUDING IS INTENDED TO BE DESCRIPTIVE AND SO SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT IS NOT DESCRIPTIVE OF TRAILER STADIUM.
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TRAILER STADIUM IS A SPORTS STADIUM WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO WE CAN I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE OUT SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT AND LEAD STRAIGHT INTO JUST TRAILER STADIUM OR. OR COULD YOU JUST LEAVE WHICH TRAILER STADIUM AND THEN PUT SPORTS STADIUMS AFTER THAT? JUST FLIP FLOP THAT ORDER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T APPEAR AT THE TOP OF THE MARKET INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPOSITION B AND THERE'S THE COLONS THERE. WILL THAT AFTER THOSE COLONS, WILL IT SAY TRAILER STADIUM REPAIR? IT'LL SAY TRAILER REPAIRS AFTER THAT PROP B. BUT IF YOU PUT TRAILER STADIUM AND STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT, THAT'S TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS. BUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S UPGRADING AND RENOVATING STADIUMS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONSTRUCTING NEW STADIUMS. OR ACQUIRING, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR 20, ALMOST 27 MILLION, BUT WE KNOW THAT A HUGE MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO TRAILERS SPECIFICALLY. SO BUT I THINK SHE'S SAYING THAT WHATEVER BOND SAVINGS IS LEFT OVER WOULD HAVE TO GO TO TRAILER STADIUM IF WE PUT AND IF WE USE THE WORD AND. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I JUST REMEMBER THOSE HARD CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WHENEVER THE NEW TRUSTEES THREE WEREN'T ON IT. I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL WERE. WHENEVER WE HAD TO MAKE CHOICES TO CUT PROGRAMS AND THAT WE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS AND EMPHASIS JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT IMPACTED PROGRAMS THAT IMPACTED BODIES AND STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND COACHES. AND IF WHEN THAT DIDN'T PASS BEFORE. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE OUT SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT AND WE CAN SAY TRAILER STADIUM, INCLUDING REPAIRS AND SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS, AND HAVE IT MORE LIMITED THAT WAY. BUT WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE BOND SAVINGS FOR ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH BOND SAVINGS? AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REINVESTED IN TRAILER STADIUM. SO BUT WHENEVER WE WHENEVER WE'RE USING THESE BOND SAVINGS TO WORK ON THOMAS RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT COMING FROM PREVIOUS BOND FROM STADIUMS BONDS THAT'S COMING FROM OTHER GENERAL BOND SAVINGS BECAUSE THAT WAS PRE 19. THAT WAS PRE 19 2019. SO WHAT THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS IF YOU WERE TO MAKE IT THIS SPECIFIC, WHEN THE THAT MONEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO SIT THERE IN THE NEXT TIME WE NEEDED TO RESURFACE THE RESURFACE THE TRACK OR REPLACE SOME LIGHTING OR REPLACE THE TURF, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD GO TO PULL THE MONEY FROM. IF WE WERE THIS SPECIFIC WITH IT, IT WOULD JUST STAY THERE AND HOLD UNTIL WE NEEDED TO USE IT FOR OTHER REPAIRS FROM THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I THINK HONESTLY, THAT'S PROBABLY SMART BECAUSE THE TURF AND THE TRACK DO COST A TON OF MONEY. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK IF WE COULD SCRATCH THE WORD ACQUIRING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE ACQUIRING ANYTHING. WHAT ABOUT CONSTRUCTING? WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY STATEMENT. OR COULD WE SAY EQUIPPING DISTRICT STADIUMS. AND RIGHT THERE PARENTHESES PUT TRAILER NAMING JUST THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE NAMED. BUT THEN THAT'S STILL SPECIFIC. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO SAY LIKE LIKE TRUSTEE BOX SAID OF AND TRAILER AS LIKE ADDING IT ON. NO, THAT IS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS BOND IS TRAILER. I THINK THIS IS A VERY TRANSPARENT STATEMENT WE'RE ASKING. THIS IS A VERY TRANSPARENT STATEMENT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS. AND THEN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE WITH STADIUMS IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT THIS IS MUCH STRONGER, I THINK. SO. SO I WHAT IF WE LEAD WITH SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE, THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED 26,000 $740,000 OF LAMAR CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOL BUILDING BONDS. FOR THE PURPOSES RELATING TO TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS, ALONG WITH SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN ADD THE REST. SO WE LEAD WITH RIGHT AFTER. SCHOOL BUILDING BONDS FOR THE PURPOSES RELATING TO TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS ALONG WITH SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS, ALONG WITH AND THEN THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE. SO THAT PUTS TRAILER STADIUM[03:50:07]
RIGHT AT THE TOP. OF. I MEAN, WHEN YOU READ LIKE WHEN THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE LEGISLATION IS ABOUT, IT'S USUALLY THE WAY THEY WRITE THE SUMMARY FOR THE PURPOSES OF AND BOOM, THEY GIVE IT TO YOU RIGHT AWAY. WHAT IS IN RELATION TO. SO THAT MIGHT BE WHY TRUSTEE HENDERSON PROBABLY RECOGNIZES THAT LANGUAGE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. COULD WE THEN JUST SAY INCLUDING DESIGNING, RENOVATING, IMPROVING, UPGRADING, UPDATING. OH WELL FORGET IT. NO. MOVEMENTS AT THE MOMENT. SO FOR THE PURPOSES RELATING TO TRAILER STADIUM REPAIRS. ALONG WITH SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS. SHE'S LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY WORDING? NOW? SAY INCLUDING OR ALONG WITH DESIGN? I THINK MY ONLY FEEDBACK TO THAT IS NO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE PURPOSES. YOU HAVE TRAILER, THE REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO TRAILER STADIUM AND DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, IMPROVING SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE BEFORE TO ME. WELL, OR OR INCLUDING INCLUDING BUT NOT INCLUDING. THE SECOND. IT'S REALLY. SO, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HIGHLIGHT TRAILER STADIUM? SO THE AG'S OFFICE DOESN'T COME AFTER US AT THE END OF THIS, BUT WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT, I MEAN, I THINK BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN AT TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD ON THE SCREEN PREVIOUSLY WHERE WE REMOVED SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT AND TIED IT TO TRAILER STADIUM, INCLUDING REPAIR, SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS, IS WHAT I THINK THE BOARD IS ASKING FOR. SO DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE UP THERE WOULD PASS MUSTER? NO, NO, THAT'S OUR ANSWER. OKAY. NO. IF WE GO THROUGH AND SAY REVERTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE AND EQUIPPING SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT. NO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT DESIGNING, EQUIPPING, RENOVATING AND IMPROVING SPORTS STADIUMS IN THE DISTRICT IS DESCRIPTIVE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO TRAILER STADIUM, WHEREAS YOU HAD THE STADIUMS AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN THE INCLUDING IMPROVEMENTS TO TRAILER STADIUM IS DESCRIPTIVE OF THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE. CAN WE JUST END THE SENTENCE AT THE END OF ADA IMPROVEMENTS? YOU CAN. DOESN'T THAT MAKE IT SIMPLE AND CLEAR LANGUAGE FOR THE VOTER? YEAH. IT DOES. IT JUST MEANS WE CAN'T USE ANY BOND SAVINGS FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN TRAILER STADIUM.SO AS THAT'S WRITTEN RIGHT THERE, WOULD THAT PASS MUSTER WITH WITH THE STRIKETHROUGH. SO AS WRITTEN RIGHT THERE, IT WOULD PASS MUSTER. IT WILL LIMIT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL ARE ALLOWED TO USE TO DESCRIBE THE BOND, BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN OUT THOSE DESCRIPTIVE VERBS. SO YOUR ADVICE IS SO MY ADVICE IS TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE WHERE WE HAD THE ORIGINAL MODIFIED LANGUAGE DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATING, IMPROVING, UPGRADING, UPDATING AND EQUIPPING TRAILER STADIUM, INCLUDING REPAIRS AND SAFETY AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
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SO YOUR YOUR POINT THERE IS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THOSE WORDS WHEN COMMUNICATING IF IT'S NOT LISTED THERE, BECAUSE IT CAN BE SEEN AS DESCRIPTIVE. THAT'S RIGHT. OR IF THE BOARD WANTED THE DISCRETION RIGHT TO USE THE EXCESS BOND PROCEEDS FOR OTHER STADIUMS, SHOULD THEY BECOME AVAILABLE, THEN I THINK THE LANGUAGE AS IT'S PRESENTED HERE IS THE LANGUAGE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO THE VOTERS THAT THESE ARE ONLY BE USED FOR TRAILER STADIUM, THEN WE MODIFY IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OTHER STADIUMS, MR. BUCHANAN. 26,740,000. WE WOULD USE ALL THAT TO FIX IT UP, AND IF THERE IS ANY LEFTOVER, IT COULD BE USED FOR FUTURE TURF REPAIR TEN YEARS FROM NOW. YES, SIR. I MEAN, SO YOU'RE LOOKING THAT WE HAVEN'T GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY SOME KIND OF CONTINGENCY AS PART OF YOUR DESIGNS AND PART OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO MAJORITY OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF. SO THERE WON'T THERE WILL BE MINIMAL SAVINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TO USE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE, THE, THE CONCEPT AND THE IDEA OF US WANTING TO USE IT, BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE LOGICALLY AND REALISTICALLY, THERE WON'T BE MUCH SAVINGS. NO.SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING OVER ALL THESE SEMANTICS OVER SOMETHING THAT WON'T BE THERE. AND WE COULD WE CAN BE CREATIVE AS WE USE IT. SO IF WE HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONING AND AIR CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT THAT GOES OUT THERE, INSTEAD OF USING OUR GENERAL FUND, WE COULD GO BACK TO HERE AND BUY THE EQUIPMENT. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE COULD USE TO HELP SLOWLY ROLL AWAY ANY MONEY THAT WOULD BE LEFT OVER. SO FOR THIS SITUATION, IT'S OKAY THAT WE LEAVE THAT MONEY FOR TRAILER I BELIEVE SO, YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THEN. YEAH. YEAH, THERE WE GO.
THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. WHAT? YOU JUST EDITED THE SECOND PARAGRAPH. YEAH. SEE I LIKE THAT. YES, YES. EXCEPT DO WE STILL WANT TO STRIKE ACQUIRING OR DOES IT MATTER.
YES. STRIKE ACQUIRING. OKAY. YEAH I THINK THAT LOOKS GOOD. GOOD. COOL. LET'S GO. GOOD.
OKAY. IF WE'RE GOOD, WE GET A MOTION. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ADOPT AN ORDER CALLING A BOND ELECTION AS MODIFIED PURSUANT TO BOARD DIRECTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. TRUSTEE LAMBERT MAKES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? TRUSTEE ARROYO MAKES THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY. WE'RE
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TIRED. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION. IT IS 1108. WE ARE ADJOURNING TO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS. 551.071551.072551.074 AND 551.028 THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL LAND ACQUISITION OR CONSULTATION WE ARE NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION. IT IS 11:18 P.M. WE HAVE A QUORUM. ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS TO BE MADE? MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE WITHDRAWAL OF PROPOSED TERMINATION OF FARRAH HARKRIDER EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT DUE TO RESIGNATION. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MISS MASTERS SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, I MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. BYE, BUDDY. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. IT IS