Jun 16, 2025 Special School Board Meeting

[1. Call to order and establishment of a quorum]

[00:00:05]

I TURN ON MY MICROPHONE. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE LAMAR CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 5:00 PM. THIS IS A SPECIAL CALLED BOARD MEETING WORKSHOP BEING HELD ON JUNE 16TH, 2025. WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH ALL MEMBERS PRESENT. AND WE WILL NOW

[3.A. Discussion of possible 2025 Bond Referendum]

SO WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW WE CAN GET THOSE ANSWERED AND THEN ALSO WILL COME BACK AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT. AND OUR BOND COUNCIL WILL BE HERE TOMORROW NIGHT TO ANSWER ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE AS WELL. SO, MR. BUCHANAN, GOOD EVENING, BOARD TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR NIVENS. TONIGHT WE WILL BRING FORTH A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE THE INPUT FROM OUR BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE. THESE ARE OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT MET. THE MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE THE 10TH, 2025. THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THE PROPOSED PROJECTS. THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN THEY VOTED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR PROPOSED PROJECTS IN SECTIONS. AND WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS AFTER EACH SECTION THAT WE GO THROUGH. SO THE FIRST WAS IN OUR PROPOSITION A THERE'S TWO PROPOSITIONS IN THIS PROPOSED BOND. THE FIRST ONE IS OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 39 THROUGH 45. THE NEXT COLUMN IS THE YEARS THAT THEY WOULD OPEN AND THE BUDGET AMOUNTS JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THE BUDGETS AMOUNT, BUDGET AMOUNTS ARE BASED OFF CURRENT PROJECT COST WITH A 7% INFLATION ANNUALLY UNTIL THE SCHOOL OPENS. THAT'S WHY THE COST DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN THE 27 SCHOOLS, THE 28 SCHOOLS AND THE 29 SCHOOLS. IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE'S INPUT WAS THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF 95% FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, 39 AND 45, AND ALL OF THEM WERE IN FAVOR OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS 40 THROUGH 44. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR THE BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE INPU? BEFORE WE GO ON TO OUR SECONDARY CAMPUS SECTION? OKAY. THE NEXT SECTION OF THE PROPOSITION WAS OUR SECONDARY CAMPUSES. YOU HAVE THE LAYMAN AND ROBERTS ADDITIONS. AGAIN, IN OUR LAST BOND IN NOVEMBER OF 22, THE BOARD APPROVED A 1000 SEAT ADDITION AT FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL. WE NEED TO NOW COME BACK AND ADD THE ADDITIONS TO LAYMAN AND ROBERTS, LAYMAN JUNIOR HIGH AND ROBERTS MIDDLE SCHOOL TO INCREASE THEIR CAPACITIES TO MATCH THE HIGH SCHOOL TO CREATE A TRUE FEEDER PATTERN. THEN WE HAVE SECONDARY COMPLEX NINE, WHICH INCLUDES A HIGH SCHOOL, JUNIOR HIGH, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AN AUDITORIUM UPGRADE, INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF OUR AUDITORIUMS FROM 850 TO 1250, AND THEN A TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, NAVARRO MIDDLE SCHOOL REPLACEMENT. BEFORE WE GO ON TO WHERE THAT WILL BE PLACED IS THE INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE IS THE LAYMAN AND ROBERTS ADDITIONS, ALONG WITH SECONDARY NINE HAD 100% IN FAVOR OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. AUDITORIUM UPGRADES TO 1250 SEATS WAS ONLY 86%, AND THEN THE TERRY GEORGE NAVARRO REPLACEMENT WAS AT 95%. SO TO REMIND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THIS IS OUR CURRENT SECONDARY ZONES THAT WE HAVE WITH THOMAS OPENING THIS FALL. IF YOU'LL LOOK IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER, THE OCTAGON SHAPE WITH NUMBER EIGHT, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF SECONDARY EIGHT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THOSE THREE CAMPUSES, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL OPEN IN THE FALL OF 2027. CURRENTLY, IF YOU'LL LOOK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RED TRACK, YOU HAVE THE STAR LOCATED, AND IT'S LOCATED ON SPUR TEN AND KLOSTERHOF ROAD. IT'S WHERE OUR CTE CENTER IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED THAT WILL OPEN IN THE FALL OF 26. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL AND TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S REALLY PUTTING US AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN WE NEED TO REZONE. IF WE NEED TO GIVE US SOME ROOM TO PUT MORE KIDS INTO A BLUE TRACK, OR LESS KIDS INTO THOSE BECAUSE OF THOSE CAMPUSES BEING CLOSE LOCATED TOGETHER, IT WOULD PRESENT A UNIQUE CHALLENGE TO HAVE A SECONDARY CAMPUS LOCATED WITHIN A ANOTHER CAMPUS ATTENDANCE ZONE. SO IF WE WERE TO EXPAND IT NOW, YOU WOULD HAVE TERRY HIGH SCHOOL'S COMPLEX SITTING IN THE IN PART OF SURROUNDED BY LAMAR'S ATTENDANCE ZONE BY PUTTING IT ON THE BOTTOM, YOU WOULD HAVE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS SPREAD OUT ACROSS

[00:05:06]

NOW, NOW, ALSO WITH RESPECT TO RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING THAT ARE COMING ONLINE SOUTH OF RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL, INCLUDING AUSTIN POINT. IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL, YES, SIR. WHERE IT'S LOCATED CURRENTLY, IT WRAPS AROUND RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S CALLED THE GEORGE. IT'S 4400 HOMES, AND THAT'S THE MAJOR SUBDIVISION THAT IS IN THE SILVER TRACK. BUT THERE'S ALSO THREE MORE SUBDIVISIONS COMING IN RIGHT OFF OF POWER LINE, JUST SOUTH OF POWER LINE AROUND GRAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. YES. AUSTIN POINT SITS DIRECTLY RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE MAROON COLOR TRACK. SO ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO PUT QUITE A MUCH LARGER POPULATION ON RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL. YES, SIR. AS IT IS TODAY. YES. SO, SO BY BY LOCATING A HIGH SCHOOL AT SPUR TEN AND HIGHWAY 59, THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT OVERPOPULATION FOR RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL. YES, SIR. SO IN THE LAST BOND PART OF THE 22ND NOVEMBER BOND, WHAT WE DID WAS, IS WE ADDED 500 SEAT ADDITIONS TO GEORGE RANCH, RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL AND FOSTER. THAT PUTS THOSE CAPACITIES AT 2575. BUT WHAT WE ALSO DID WAS EXPAND THE CAFETERIA AND ADDED A THIRD GYM.

AND BY DOING THAT, ALL THOSE THREE OF THOSE CAMPUSES CAN HANDLE ANOTHER 500 SEAT ADDITION WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPAND THOSE SUPPORT AREAS. SO WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE ANY KIND OF GROWTH, EITHER ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 500 SEAT ADDITION OR IF BY PUTTING THESE THREE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DISTRICT, IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO TWEAK AND MODIFY THOSE ATTENDANCE ZONES TO HELP US WITH THE GROWTH MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD LOCATE A COLOR TRACK AT HIGHWAY 59 AND SPUR TEN. NOW, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF TERRY, THE CURRENT TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, TO LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL, IT ALSO MAKES SENSE THAT ALL OF THE STUDENTS WITHIN THAT AREA BE ZONED TO THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL.

[00:10:06]

NOW, WITH ALL THE ANTICIPATED GROWTH DOWN HIGHWAY 59, WOULD IT NOT BE BETTER TO BUILD THAT AS A 3000 SEAT HIGH SCHOOL? NOW WE CAN, IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S WISH. WHAT WE'LL DO IS, AS WE PUT IT, AS AN ALTERNATE, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT COMES OUT, WHEN THE BIDDING PROCESS GOES, IF IT COMES OUT THAT WE CAN AFFORD IT WITHIN THE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD BUILD IT TO, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WISHES TO 3075 TO MATCH. FULSHEAR HIGH SCHOOL AND SECONDARY COMPLEX EIGHT. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE TO THE TO THE LIST. OKAY, SO I REMEMBER FROM THE CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE, I WAS THERE AS A FLY ON THE WALL. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM UPGRADE AT 1250 SEATS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE DISTRICT'S AUDITORIUMS, HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS, UPGRADING IT ALONE, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED WHICH ONE. UPGRADING IT TO THAT NUMBER OF SEATS AND POSSIBLY PUTTING A BALCONY, AN ORCHESTRA PIT AND THOSE OTHER TYPE OF THINGS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THE PLAN WOULD BE IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE 850 SEATS IN OUR CURRENT AUDITORIUM. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS REALLY A PERFORMANCE AREA, SO AN ORCHESTRA PIT FITS UNDERNEATH THE STAGE. SO IT LETS YOU TO HAVE A LIVE ORCHESTRA UNDERNEATH THERE TO PLAY MUSIC FOR THE THEATER PRODUCTIONS. THE OTHER THING WE'LL DO IS HAVE A LARGER STAGE EXPANDING THE STAGE, BEING ABLE TO HAVE A LARGER PRODUCTION AS ITSELF. THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT IS OUR PROP ROOM CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, OUR STUDENTS THAT HAVE PROPS WITHIN OUR PLAYS, THEY CAN'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO STORE THOSE LONG TERM. SO WHEN ONE PLAY GOES OUT, ONE PLAY COMES IN. IF THEY DON'T NEED THOSE PROPS, THEY HAVE TO TELL THOSE PROPS DOWN. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US A LARGER PROP AREA, A LARGER PRODUCTION AREA FOR THE PROPS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE LARGER PROPS SO THEY CAN BE USED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITHOUT STUDENTS HAVING TO BUILD AND THEN TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD THOSE CURRENT PROPS PROPS FOR THOSE STAGE AREAS. I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING EVERYBODY'S AUDITORIUM TO THIS. THIS NUMBER OF SEATS.

JUST ONE IN THE DISTRICT. YES, SIR. THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO DO EVERYONE, BUT THAT IS JUST A SINGLE AUDITORIUM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF WE WERE TO ADD THE 400 ADDITIONAL SEATS TO SAY, HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER NINE OR THE REPLACEMENT FOR TERRY HIGH SCHOOL, GEORGE, WOULD THAT EQUAL 41 MILLION? IF WE WERE TO ADD THAT IN AT CONSTRUCTION COSTS? YES, SIR. WHEN WE STARTED TALKING WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE. A LOT OF OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BASED OUR COST. RIGHT. SO THE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU HAVE, THE MORE COST YOU HAVE. SO WHEN WE EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF EITHER ONE OF THE SECONDARY NINE OR THE TERRY REPLACEMENT, WE'RE INCREASING THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS FOR THAT COST? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT'S FOR IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO PER SEAT, THAT'S 400 SEATS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $103,000 PER SEAT. BUT WE KNOW IT'S MORE THAN JUST SEATS. IT'S ALL THE OTHER STUFF TOO. YES, SIR. BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BALCONY,

[00:15:03]

CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, IT COST US $300,000 TO RELOCATE A PORTABLE BUILDING FROM ONE CAMPUS TO ANOTHER 600,000 FOR A BRAND NEW. WE PUT VEHICLES, BUS AND WHITE FLEET. THE REASON THAT WE PUT BOTH OF THESE ON HERE, IT ALLOWS US THE FLEXIBILITY TO PURCHASE BOTH POLICE VEHICLES, MAINTENANCE VEHICLES AND OUR BUSSES WITH A CAPITAL OUTLAY OF OUR BOND PROGRAM, SAFETY AND SECURITY. WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN OUR CLOSED SESSION, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE RELATED TO THE SECURITY OF OUR STUDENTS. AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION WAS ROOFING AND AIR CONDITIONING. IF YOU WILL PULL OUT YOUR LARGE THREE RING BINDER. ONCE YOU OPEN UP YOUR BINDER, THERE'S A COVER SHEET ON THE FRONT THAT SAYS FACILITY ASSESSMENT REPORT. CURRENTLY, WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS HELP COMPILE THIS REPORT FOR YOU. ONE THING THAT WE'VE WE'VE CHANGED IN THE PAST IS INSTEAD OF PUTTING OUT SURVEYS TO STAFF AND SURVEYS TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAFF OF WHAT SHOULD BE IMPROVED WITHIN OUR FACILITIES, WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK OUR CURRENT PROTOTYPE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND OUR SECONDARY CAMPUSES AND SAYS, THIS IS THE DISTRICT STANDARD.

THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR THESE. HOW DO THE CAMPUSES WITHIN OUR DISTRICT COMPARE TO A BRAND NEW FACILITY? SO THAT'S HOW WE BECAME GENERATED THIS REPORT ONCE YOU ONCE YOU OPEN THE COVER, IF YOU'LL TURN PAST THE TABLE OF CONTENTS, THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY BY CATEGORY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS HAS ALL THE CAMPUS PRICING BROKE DOWN. THIS LIST ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES AND BREAKS EVERYTHING DOWN INTO FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. AND THEN IT TOTALS YOU ON THE RIGHT FOR EACH CATEGORY. IF YOU FLIP OVER ONE MORE PAGE WHERE IT SAYS SAFETY, HVAC AND ROOFING. IF YOU WILL NOTICE, COMPARED TO OUR NEW FACILITIES, WE HAVE $600.3 MILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS. AND THEN WE NEED TO BE MAKING WITHIN THAT FACILITY CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR $165 MILLION. IF YOU WILL OPEN UP IN YOUR BUCHANAN, WHERE DO YOU SEE THE $600 MILLION? WHERE'S THAT AT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR. SUMMARY CATEGORY, IT SUMMARIZES THE BOTTOM HERE. SO THERE'S A TOTAL OF $1 BILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS TO BRING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES UP TO OUR CURRENT NEW STANDARDS JUST FOR AIR CONDITIONING, ROOFING AND SAFETY. IT'S 6.600 POINT $3 MILLION. SO IF WE WERE TO DO ALL OF THE REPAIRS AND BRING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES UP TO OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, IT WOULD BE JUST OVER

[00:20:04]

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY WERE NOT BUILT AIR CONDITIONED IF WE KNEW SERVERS WERE GOING IN THERE OR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PREDATES YOU ARRIVING TO US. A LOT OF IT DOES, SIR. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT I KNOW AS WE ADD DEVICES, ESPECIALLY AS WE DO STATE TESTING, WE HAD TO INCREASE OUR WI-FI NETWORK, WHICH HAD. SO EACH WI-FI WE NEED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SERVERS, NUMBER OF SERVERS PUT OFF MORE HEAT. SO THOSE ARE THE TOP THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PUT WITHIN THOSE FACILITIES. THE OTHER THING I KNOW THAT WE ADDED IN OUR LAST BOND WAS A LOT OF BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS. SO YOU HAVE SOME BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS IN THOSE SERVER ROOMS TO LAST 30 MINUTES TO TRANSITION, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE UP AND RUNNING, THOSE ALSO AS THOSE CHARGE PUT OFF HEAT, LIKE WHEN YOUR PHONE CHARGES. SO IT'S JUST ACCUMULATED HEAT OF ALL THOSE DEVICES, CAUSES ISSUES SOMETIMES WITHIN OUR TROPICAL WEATHER THAT WE LIKE TO HAVE DOWN HERE IN HOUSTON. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. BEFORE I GOT ON THE BOARD, I WOULD HAVE NEVER APPRECIATED JUST THE SHEER AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT IT TAKES TO RUN OUR DISTRICT AND KEEP OUR BUILDINGS IN WORKING ORDER. EVEN SO, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $165 MILLION IN JUST BASICALLY MAINTENANCE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET A LOT IS WHY? WHY DON'T WE ACCOUNT FOR THIS? YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHY ISN'T THIS INCLUDED IN IN OUR EVERY YEAR AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY MAKING REPAIRS. SO COULD YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? YES, MA'AM. YOU KNOW, OUR STATE LAWMAKERS HAVE DECIDED THAT THE INTEREST AND SINKING FUND, WHICH IS FUNDS, ARE BONDS, OUR DEBT SERVICE, THAT IS THE MECHANISM THAT WE ARE TO BE USED TO PROVIDE NEW BUILDINGS AND REMODEL BUILDINGS, OUR FACILITIES OR UPGRADES. THE REASON BEING IS, IS ANY PART OF

[00:25:03]

BUT ALSO IT'S THE FLIP SIDE IS, IS WE CAN'T TAKE OUR INS FUND AND PAY FOR TEACHER RAISES OR EMPLOYEES OR ANYTHING NON RELATED TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS. SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR GENERAL FUND AND PAY FOR OTHER THINGS. BUT THIS DEBT FUND YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND PAY FOR NEW TEACHER. TEACHER RAISES, ADDITIONAL PARAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THAT'S WHY TAKING THESE ITEMS AND BE ABLE TO PUT THEM INTO OUR BOND PROPOSITION, ALLOWS US TO FREE UP MONEY, TO BE ABLE TO PUT BACK INTO OUR CLASSROOM. DO WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR BUILDINGS EVERY YEAR THAT WE CAN USE OUR INS FUND FOR? WHAT IS OUR WHAT IS OUR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE? DO WE JUST WAIT FOR A BOND BEFORE WE REPAIR ANY BUILDINGS, OR DO WE DO ANYTHING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? GOES TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDINGS ARE STILL UP AND RUNNING AND FUNCTIONAL. THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING? YES, SIR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE FUND THAT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN A FACILITY, BUT IT DOES NOT CALL US, ALLOWS US TO REPLACE THINGS LIKE CARPET COMING IN AND DOING MAJOR REMODELS WITHIN OUR FACILITIES.

IT JUST REALLY MAINTAINS THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS. THAT'S WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE FUND IS THERE FOR. NOW. WE HAVE COME TO THE BOARD HERE RECENTLY TO BE ABLE TO FUND, YOU KNOW, SOME FIRE ALARM REPLACEMENTS AT SOME CAMPUSES TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOME CHILLER REPLACEMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE BOND FUNDS THAT WE'VE SAVED FROM OTHER PROJECTS. BUT OUR CURRENT FUND THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR MAINTENANCE IS JUST TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY IN ITS CURRENT STATE, SO THAT THAT BOND, THAT MONEY THAT'S SET OVER FOR MAINTENANCE COMES OUT OF NO. YES, SIR. IT COMES OUT OF THE CLASSROOM. YES, SIR. IT DOES.

MR. BUCHANAN, I REMEMBER IN THE 2020 BOND, SOMEBODY ASKED ME THIS IN THE PUBLIC, AND THEN I ASKED THE PERSON IN YOUR POSITION AT THE TIME. SO I WANT TO ASK IT AGAIN BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT BE THINKING OF IT. WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION DEPARTMENT. SO ON ONE OF THESE PAGES, LET'S SEE HERE, IT'S REDDING JUNIOR HIGH JUST TO USE A FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $318,000 TO REPAIR THE ROOF TO MITIGATE LEAKS. HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION DEPARTMENT CAN'T MAINTAIN THE ROOF TO MITIGATE LEAKS. YES, SIR. SO ONE THING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITHIN OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IS WE DON'T PAY MARKET VALUE FOR A LOT OF TRADES. SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE TO OUTSOURCE THAT WORK. OUR OUR ROOFING IS ONE OF THOSE MANY TRADES. HVAC IS ANOTHER. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH REDDING JUNIOR HIGH AND THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OUR MAINTENANCE CREWS HAVE ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS IT. OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES HAVE ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS IT. THIS IS A MUCH LARGER REPAIR TO ACTUALLY PULL BACK PARTS OF THE ROOF, GET UNDERNEATH IT, BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE LEAK PERMANENTLY AND PUT IT BACK. COULD WE DO THAT IN HOUSE? NO, SIR. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THE SKILLED POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT WITHIN OUR FACILITIES. THE OTHER THING IS, IS IF OUR MAINTENANCE CREW IS ADDRESSING CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, IT PULLS THEM AWAY FROM DOING OUR GENERAL MAINTENANCE TO BE ABLE TO UPKEEP OUR CURRENT FACILITIES. SO WE DON'T HAVE WE'RE NOT OVERSTAFFED WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, WE END UP USING CONTRACT SERVICES BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE OFF TYPE PROJECTS THAT DO TAKE THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAYS TO BE ABLE TO USE. AND ONCE IT BECOMES A MUCH LARGER ISSUE, THAT'S USUALLY WHEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE BOND AND CAPITAL OUTLAY. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION LIKE LET'S JUST LOOK AT CAMPBELL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND REPLACING THE BOILER 90 $93,000. WHAT IS WHAT'S THE TYPICAL LIFESPAN OF ONE OF THOSE BOILERS. AND DO WE HAVE WARRANTIES ON THEM WHEN WE BUY THEM. AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT? CURRENTLY, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS REPLACE OUR BOARDS BETWEEN 20 TO 25 YEARS. OKAY, SO THINK OF A BOILER AS A WATER HEATER IN YOUR HOUSE. SO THEY ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN LIFESPAN. WE DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON ALL BOILERS. THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED ANNUALLY. ONCE WE ONCE WE GET THEM INSTALLED WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2025 YEAR LIFESPAN DEPENDS ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANUFACTURERS. DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF WARRANTY. SOME OF THEM COULD BE FIVE YEARS, SOME COULD BE TEN, SOME COULD BE 15. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE MANUFACTURER. WHEN WE PURCHASE THE BOILER OF WHAT KIND OF WARRANTY THEY OFFER US. THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHEN WE DO LOOK AT THOSE IF THEY HAVE A LARGER WARRANTY, SOMETIMES THE

[00:30:02]

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING SCHOOL DISTRICT OF OUR SIZE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO, SO, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT THAT I ENCOUNTERED DURING MY CAMPAIGN IS THAT MY CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A RAPID GROWTH MODE. AND SO MY CONSTITUENTS FULLY UNDERSTAND AND THAT MY CHARGE TO SERVING ON THIS BOARD IS TO ADDRESS AND PLAN FOR THIS RAPID GROWTH. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUES, MY PREDECESSORS ON THIS SCHOOL BOARD, ONE OF THE WHEN I DECIDED TO RUN FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, I KNEW THAT I WOULD BE JOINING A VERY EFFECTIVE SCHOOL BOARD, A BOARD THAT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB FOR MANY YEARS. AND REALLY, MY INTENT WAS TO BUILD ON ON THE SUCCESS THEY'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. AND I CANNOT COMMEND HAVING SOME PRIOR EXPERIENCE SERVING IN PUBLIC OFFICE. I LOOK AT THAT LAND AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, A LINE ITEM, AND COMMEND MY PREDECESSORS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR ESTABLISHING A LAND BANK WHEN IT OCCURRED, BECAUSE THAT THAT IS THAT IS HUGE. IT'S PARAMOUNT IN PLANNING FOR GROWTH. SO KUDOS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS SERVED MOST RECENTLY AND ESPECIALLY TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE LAND BANK HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR MANY YEARS. I THINK IT'S TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO, 2 TO 3 YEARS. YES, SIR. AND OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT LAND IS NOT GETTING ANY LESS EXPENSIVE. SO AS A AS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO BUY BE ABLE TO BUY AT. I'M A VALUE SHOPPER. I WANT TO PAY THE LESS LEAST AMOUNT FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE BEST VALUE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M EXCITED. AND I THINK IT'S PRUDENT THAT THAT WE CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE LAND BANK. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, TOUCHING ON THE ON THE RELOCATION OF THE RED TRACK SCHOOLS, I HAVE TALKED TO SOME

[00:35:07]

[00:40:04]

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. CURRENTLY, LAMAR CISD HAS 36,459 STUDENT LAPTOPS AND ENROLLED. WE HAVE 35,008 STUDENTS IN GRADES THREE THROUGH 12, SO IT IS TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO A 1 TO 1 PROGRAM IF WE REALLOCATED THE CURRENT STUDENT LAPTOPS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT THAT WOULD LEAVE US SHORT ON IS THOSE SUPPORT DEVICES OF AS BREAK FIXES HAPPEN, BEING ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE DEVICES AND GETTING THEM QUICKLY TURNED AROUND IN THE IN THE HANDS OF STUDENTS. WHENEVER A DEVICE IS BROKEN OR IT HAS AN ISSUE, IT CAN TAKE 2 TO 3 WEEKS BEFORE WE RECEIVE A WARRANTY BACK FOR A REPLACEMENT OF THAT DEVICE. THIS ALSO ONE KEY NOTE IS THAT THE 1 TO 1 STUDENT LAPTOP RATIO PROPOSAL DOES NOT SEND DEVICES HOME. IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY ON CAMPUS. LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS LOOKED AT OUR ENROLLMENT CURRENTLY FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH 12 AND PROJECTED THE GROWTH OF THE DISTRICT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS THROUGH 2028, 2029 SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN DEFINED WHAT THAT PLUS 10% WOULD BE. AND THAT'S THE NUMBER OF DEVICES WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE STUDENT LAPTOPS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN A 1 TO 1 STUDENT LAPTOP RATIO IN GRADES THREE THROUGH 12. THE BOTTOM ROW OF THAT TABLE SHOWS YOU HOW MANY DEVICES WOULD NEED TO BE PURCHASED BY YEAR. IT STARTS OFF AT ABOUT 2000, GETS UP TO CLOSE TO 2500 PER YEAR, FOR A TOTAL OF 11,065 BY THE END OF THIS BOND PROPOSAL. THE FINAL SECTION THERE WAS GRAPHIC ARTS UPDATES FOR OUR GRAPHIC ARTS DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS LARGE SCALE PRINTING NEEDS FOR THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING HIGH VOLUME PRINTING AND LARGE FORMAT PRINTING. TOOLS IDENTIFIED FOR REPLACEMENT ARE OR. ADDITIONAL NEED ARE ONE LARGE FORMAT PRINTER REPLACING A LARGE VOLUME PAPER CUTTER REPLACING A CUTTER, CREASER PERFORATOR, AND FOLDER MACHINE. IT'S AN ALL IN ONE MACHINE. IT'S REALLY COOL MACHINE ACTUALLY, AND THEN REPLACING A FOUR WACOM TABLETS. THAT'S A DESIGN TOOL AND ELECTRONIC DESIGN TOOL WHERE THEY CAN DRAW OUT GRAPHIC GRAPHICS THAT THEY WANT TO ULTIMATELY PRINT OUT OR MAKE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB PAGE. SO ESTIMATED COSTS FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, WE COVERED THE BIG PICTURE. BUT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THOSE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM, PER PER DEVICE PRICING IS BASED ON CURRENT QUOTES, WHAT WE CAN CURRENTLY GET FOR THOSE DEVICES, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 15% TO COVER POSSIBLE PRICE INCREASES OVER TIME AND IMPLEMENTATION COSTS.

SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS TABLE HERE YOU CAN SEE THE DEVICES AND THEN THE ESTIMATED PLUS 15%. SO MONITORS WOULD BE $230. STUDENT LAPTOPS 966 STUDENT DESKTOPS AND STAFF DESKTOPS, 1150. AND THEN STAFF LAPTOPS WOULD BE JUST UNDER $1,400 IN IPADS AT 450 OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECTS.

YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS THERE, WITH THE NUMBER OF DEVICES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED OR PURCHASED ORIGINAL PER YEAR WITH THE UNIT ESTIMATED COSTS. SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DEVICES TIMES THAT PER UNIT COST GIVES YOU THE TOTALS ON THE LAST COLUMN. SO FOR MONITORS WOULD BE $330,000 FOR STUDENT LAPTOPS. JUST TO REFRESH, NOT GOING 1 TO 1 WOULD BE 20,047,000. STUDENT DESKTOP WOULD BE $5.2 MILLION. STAFF LAPTOPS 4.4 MILLION. STAFF DESKTOP 5.3 MILLION IPADS WOULD BE EIGHT POINT ABOUT 4 MILLION. AND THEN IF WE CHOSE TO DO THE 1 TO 1 PROGRAM, ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL LAPTOPS TO OUR ENVIRONMENT, THAT WOULD BE $10.7 MILLION. AND THEN THE GRAPHIC ARTS PROJECT WOULD BE $250,000. DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT

[00:45:02]

[00:50:02]

OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED A LAPTOP. THEY NEED TO BE. I DID TALK TO TEACHERS AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT ABOUT HAVING A DESKTOP IN THE CLASSROOM AND HAVING A LAPTOP IS THAT OFTEN THE DESKTOP IS WHAT RUNS THEIR SMART BOARD. SO THEY'RE WORKING, THAT'S RUNNING THEIR SMART BOARD, AND THEY'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION ON THEIR LAPTOP. SO AGAIN, IF THE IF THE CLASSROOM DESKTOPS ARE BEING USED JUST REALLY TO RUN A SMART BOARD, THEN IT ALSO WOULDN'T NEED TO BE HAVE A HIGH PROCESSOR SPEED. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JUST LIKE BASIC FUNCTIONALITY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAS A VIDEO CARD THAT CAN HANDLE THE DUAL SCREEN OPPORTUNITY THERE. THERE IS THE TOUCH CAPABILITY OF THOSE INTERACTIVE FLAT PANELS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAS THE PROCESSOR POWER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TYPE OF FUNCTIONALITY. FOR A DESKTOP PERSPECTIVE. BUT SO THAT'S THE CURRENT SPECS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING FOR THOSE TYPES OF DEVICES. OKAY.

AND THEN STAFF LAPTOPS AGAIN, THAT SEEMS KIND OF HIGH TO ME. AGAIN, IF THEY'RE DOING LESSON PLANNING. AND I KNOW SOME TEACHERS HAVE SPECIALIZED THINGS WHERE THEY DO HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE AUTOCAD OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO UTILIZE AND HAVE A HIGHER, YOU KNOW, CAPABILITIES ON A LAPTOP. BUT IF WE'RE MOST TEACHERS ARE USING IT FOR LESSON PLANNING, CANVAS COORDINATION WITH THEIR TEAMS. TO ME, IT SEEMS KIND OF STEEP. SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN AVERAGE OF PRICING THAT WE DO DO INSTRUCTIONAL LAPTOPS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE ADMINISTRATOR LAPTOPS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE DIFFERENT ROLES IN THOSE, MOST ARE THE INSTRUCTIONAL LAPTOPS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN THIS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE $1,200 RANGE. BUT THEN THE ADMINISTRATOR LAPTOP IS A LITTLE BIT PRICIER DEVICE. ANOTHER PIECE WITH THIS IS FOR THESE STAFF DESKTOP OR LAPTOPS. IT IS A BEEFIER MACHINE THAN THE STUDENT LAPTOP, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES AN EVEN BETTER BATTERY TO ENSURE THOSE FOR THOSE DEVICES. AND WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT JUST RAISES THAT COST UP A LITTLE BIT BY LITTLE BIT. OKAY. DOCTOR JONES. THE LAW IS VERY SPECIFIC IN SOME SOME OF THE BONDS THAT WE PASS, YOU CAN'T TAKE YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ITEM A AND LATER SAY, OH, WE'VE CHANGED IT. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ITEM J INSTEAD.

IS IT IS IT THAT SPECIFIC WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGY. DO WE NEED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BUY IPADS FOR INSTANCE. AND LATER YOU USE IT TO BUY DISTRICT SERVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, IT DOESN'T GET THAT SPECIFIC. IT GOES INTO SAY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE APPROVING DEVICES. SO IT WOULD BE LIVING WITHIN THAT DEVICE PROJECT LIST OF THOSE TYPES OF DEVICES. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THOSE SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS OF EACH OF THOSE DEVICES NECESSARILY. AND YOU'RE NOT ASKING IN THIS FOR ANY KIND OF THE ROUTERS OR ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THAT. NO, SIR. THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN LIKE THE PROP, A INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF THINGS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BUILDING, THAT THERE ARE WIRES AND CABLES THAT ARE PART OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. WE HAVE SOME REMAINING BOND FUNDS TO CONTINUE COVERING ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO WHEN YOU REPLACE A SERVER AT A

[00:55:03]

THEY'RE VERY CLOSE NEXT YEAR. WE'RE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING WE'RE SO HYPER GROWTH. AND SO BUT WE'RE VERY CLOSE. IT WOULD REQUIRE REALLOCATION OF DEVICES FROM THIS CAMPUS HAS THIS MANY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS MANY TO THIS CAMPUS. OUR TITLE ONE HIGH SCHOOLS COMPUTER TO BE 1 TO 1 THAT IS FUNDED. CORRECT. IS IT JUST OUR HIGH SCHOOLS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. SO TITLE ONE SCHOOLS ARE ABLE TO BE 1 TO 1. THEY THEY GET THE COMPUTERS RIGHT. SO TITLE ONE SCHOOLS DO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TITLE ONE FUNDS THAT THEY CAN THEN CHOOSE TO UTILIZE. AND MANY OF THEM DO PURCHASE TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT. BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE FOR ALL CAMPUSES. BUT MANY OF OUR TITLE ONE CAMPUSES DO HAVE A HIGHER RATIO OF DEVICES TO STUDENTS. OKAY. BUT SO WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THEIR COMPUTERS AND SPREAD THEM AROUND OR WE CANNOT. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT WAS PURCHASED WITH TITLE FUNDS, IT STAYS AT A TITLE FUNDED CAMPUS AND THAT IT ALL HAS TO BE CODED THE CORRECT WAY.

ONCE A DEVICE IS THEN REPLACED BY A BOND FUND BOND BOND FUNDS, THEN IT IS NOW IT'S NO LONGER ORIGINALLY, IT'S NO LONGER PURCHASED BY THE TITLE FUNDS. IT'S NOW BEEN PURCHASED BY THE BOND FUNDS. GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IF NECESSARY. OKAY I UNDERSTAND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 1 TO 1 LAPTOP RATIO. THOUGHTS? OPINIONS? CONCERNS. SO IF WE DON'T GO TO THE 1 TO 1 RATIO WHERE WE'RE NOT RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY WE'RE NOT. WHAT DOES THAT DO TO STUDENT LEARNING IN OUR DISTRICT? I MEAN, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO. I'M JUST KIND OF ASKING THE ADMINISTRATION TO SPEAK TO THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE OF TRUSTEE BOX'S POINT, IF SHE'S AGAINST IT AND THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD IS AGAINST IT, JUST

[01:00:04]

THEY JUST HAVE TO COORDINATE MORE WITH EACH OTHER AS TO WHO GETS THE COMPUTERS, WHAT DAY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, AND I'M ASKING IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, THE MATH CLASS, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD THAT WOULD THAT FORCE THE MATH TEACHER TO TEACH AND THE STUDENTS TO USE PENCIL AND PAPER MORE IS BASICALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT. YES, THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. YES. AND. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOW. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR. IT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE. SO I FEEL LIKE IT IS COORDINATION AND I UNDERSTAND SOME MAYBE THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR TEACHERS, BUT I MEAN IT'S WORK AROUND. COULD WE MAYBE LOOK AT AN OPTION WHERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE FOR ONE, BUT A ONE FOR NEED? IS THAT ARE WE ESSENTIALLY A ONE FOR NEED? NOW WE ARE TO SOME DEGREE RIGHT NOW, WE COULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PURPOSEFUL OF SAYING, HEY, LET'S LOOK AT RATIOS PER CAMPUS, THIS NUMBER OF DEVICES PER CAMPUS. DO WE NEED TO REALLOCATE OR COORDINATE EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HITTING THOSE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT BETTER? THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY INVESTIGATE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE ALSO TO SEPARATE THE 1 TO 1 OUT OF PROP B AND PUT IT BY BY ITSELF, OR DOES IT HAVE TO ALL BE TOGETHER? YES, MA'AM. IF THE BOARD WISHES, WE COULD MAKE A PROP C AND PUT THAT AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WISHES TO DO. MY I MEAN, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT I, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES, RIGHT. AS A PARENT, THOUGH, COMING TO THE TO THE TO VOTE AND I SEE 1 TO 1, MY IMMEDIATE REACTION IS GOING TO BE WHY? IF I'M UNEDUCATED, I WOULD HATE FOR 1 TO 1 TO SINK THE MUCH NEEDED, YOU KNOW, REST OF IT, BECAUSE WE DID A POOR JOB OF EXPLAINING OR JUST, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S I BELIEVE IS TERRY HIGH SCHOOL AND LAMAR ARE BOTH 1 TO 1. IS THAT CORRECT? THEY'RE VERY CLOSE. YES, YES. AND I GUESS IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS. BUT WHEN I THINK OF MY I DON'T HAVE A THIRD GRADER ANYMORE, BUT I HAD FIVE OF THEM BEING ON A COMPUTER ALL THAT TIME. AND FOR ME, THAT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW. ELEMENTARY, ESPECIALLY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE MEETING WAS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THIRD GRADERS, FOURTH GRADERS, FIFTH GRADERS, THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE STAR ON A COMPUTER. SO WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM HOW TO HOW TO DO THAT.

CORRECT. K THROUGH TWO. ARE THEY TYPICALLY ON LAPTOPS? I MEAN, NOT LAPTOPS, IPADS. WE RECOMMEND THAT IF WE WERE PURCHASING A DEVICE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND AN IPAD FOR THOSE LOWER GRADE LEVELS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TACTILE, EASIER FOR THEM TO HANDLE, BUT SOME ARE STILL GOING TO BE ON LAPTOPS. OKAY. AND THEY ALL GO TO THE COMPUTER LAB PROBABLY. SO THEY'RE USING A COMPUTER IN THOSE ENVIRONMENTS. SO DOCTOR JONES OF THE 1 TO 1 10.6 MILLION, HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD WOULD YOU NEED. WOULD YOU GUESS ESTIMATE IF WE DIDN'T MOVE 1 TO 1 JUST TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF REPLACEMENT COMPUTERS BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR CURRENT NEEDS ARE BASED ON, BASED OFF OF OUR CURRENT NUMBER OF DEVICES? IF WE WERE TO SAY WE WANTED 10% REPLACEMENT TO HAVE FASTER TURNAROUND, HOW MUCH A DOLLAR AMOUNT BALLPARK THAT? HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO GRAB MY PHONE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT MATH. THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO WE HAVE TIME. THE NUMBER OF STUDENT LAPTOPS WE HAVE IS APPROXIMATELY 36,000. SO TIMES 10% IS 3600. SO THAT TIMES. 966 IS 3.477 600. SO 3,477,600. SO IF WE WERE TO BREAK OUT THAT LINE TO A DIFFERENT PROP, IT WOULDN'T

[01:05:04]

SO IF WE WERE LOOKING BACK AT, I'M GOING TO GO, I'M GOING TO TRY AND FIND IT HERE. SO GOING BACK, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF DEVICES THAT WE WOULD NEED ANNUALLY TO ENSURE WE HAD THE 10% OVERAGE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO IT'S THE 2050 FOR REALLY THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR. IF WE WERE GOING TO GET IT UP TO THE 1 TO 1 NUMBER THERE, 2079 FOR 2526. SO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS. THAT INCLUDES THE GETTING US OVER THE 10% AMOUNT. AND TO SAY AGAIN PUBLICLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, IF WE WERE TO TAKE WERE TO PURCHASE THESE OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, THAT WOULD PULL MONEY OUT OF CLASSROOMS, THAT WOULD PULL THAT'S THAT'S TEACHERS, THAT'S EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IT TAKES TO RUN THE SCHOOLS DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. SO THE LAW, AGAIN, FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON. AND IF WE SPEND MONEY ON THIS ON A PIECE OF HARDWARE THAT'S POTENTIALLY A STAFF PERSON IN AN OVERCROWDED CLASSROOM OR AN OVERCROWDED CLASSROOM OR A PAIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO Y'ALL ALSO SAID THAT WHEN THE DISTRICT IS FINISHED WITH COMPUTERS, WHEN THEIR WARRANTY IS EXPIRED AND WE ARE GETTING RID OF THEM, WE ARE SELLING THEM OFF. DO WE? DOES THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY AUCTION THEM OFF AND THEN GET LIKE SOMEONE AUCTIONS THEM OFF FOR YOU AND WE GET THEY GET 10% OF IT AND WE GET THE REST? OR DO Y'ALL JUST SELL IT TO SOMEBODY WHO THEN GOES AND TAKES CARE OF IT? AND HOW MUCH OF THAT TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT TO GET THAT WOULD ROLL BACK IN TO PURCHASE FOR PURCHASING MORE? YOU KNOW, DOING A REFRESH OR WHATEVER? IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE ON THE HOW, THE HOW GOOD OF A STATE THE DEVICE IS IN. SO IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER ON THAT. I COULD DO SOME RESEARCH AND BRING SOME NUMBERS BACK TO YOU. ALL OF WHAT SOME OF OUR RECENT HAVE BEEN, WHAT WE DO IS WE SELL THEM TO A, A, A RESELLER WHO WILL TAKE THE DEVICE. AND THEN THEY PART OF THAT BECAUSE PART OF OUR, THE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS ENSURE THE DEVICE IS CLEARED COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY WIPED SO THAT THERE'S NO DATA LEFT ON IT. SO THEY PROVIDE US A CERTIFICATE TO SHOW THIS DEVICE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CLEARED. AND THEN BASED ON THE STATE OF THE DEVICE, THEY THEN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS A QUALITY CE DEVICE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU $80 OR THIS IS A DEVICE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU $150, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT PER SALE. AND THE DEVICE. BUT WITH THAT WE DO GET THE DISTRICT DOES RECEIVE A CHECK THAT WE THEN PUT BACK INTO THAT FUND TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL DEVICES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES? I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT TERRY AND LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL ARE CURRENTLY AT A 1 TO 1 RATIO. THEY'RE VERY CLOSE. AS POPULATION GROWS AND DIMINISHES, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE LESS. SO. QUESTION FOR MRS. COTTON GAME IS THAT TO SAY THAT THE STUDENTS AT TERRY AND LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL SPEND MORE TIME ON THEIR COMPUTER THAN, LET'S SAY, STUDENTS AT FOSTER AND GEORGE RANCH HIGH SCHOOL DO? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. DURING THE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, IT'S ALL ON HOW THE TEACHERS PLAN THEIR LESSONS. I MEAN, IT REALLY ALL BOILS DOWN TO DOES THE TEACHER USE THE COMPUTER IN THE CLASSROOM IN THEIR LESSON PLANS OR DO THEY NOT? AND THAT RIGHT NOW THAT'S TEACHER CHOICE, OKAY. AND SO GOING FORWARD COULD INSTRUCTION, LET'S SAY IF WE DECIDED TO PROVIDE THE ONE ON ONE OR 1 TO 1 IS THAT I MEAN COULD INSTRUCTION BE DESIGNED SO THAT STUDENTS WOULD NOT I MEAN, SO THAT IT WOULD PREVENT INSTRUCTORS FROM ALLOWING STUDENTS TO, TO BE ON THEIR LAPTOPS LITERALLY ALL DAY TO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE, WHERE STUDENTS ARE NOT ON THEIR LAPTOPS ALL DAY. EXACTLY. SO WE COULD BALANCE THAT. SURE. OKAY.

FROM AN INSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. OKAY, GOOD. BECAUSE, I MEAN, I SHARE THE CONCERNS BECAUSE MY CONCERNS ARE THAT MY GRANDKIDS ARE ON THEIR LAPTOPS TOO OFTEN BECAUSE THEY IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE ON THEIR LAPTOP AT SCHOOL, THEN THEY COME HOME AND THEY'RE ON THEIR DEVICE. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT AS A, AS A COLLEGE INSTRUCTOR, I TEACH STUDENTS AND I HAVE STUDENTS FROM LITERALLY ALL LCISD HIGH SCHOOLS. AND

[01:10:05]

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A THIRD GRADER AND YOU'RE TAKING AN ONLINE TEST FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND I THINK ABOUT THE SKILLS THAT TAKES, INSTEAD OF HAVING MY PAPER RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE ALL MY NOTATIONS AND THINGS ON THE ACTUAL PAGE, NOW I HAVE TO READ IT. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. IF THERE'S A HIGHLIGHTER, TOOLS AND THINGS, I CAN USE THAT, BUT THEN I HAVE TO. I HAVE TO DO MY SCRATCH PAPER DOWN HERE ON A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER. SO THERE'S MORE THAN JUST TEACHING THEM HOW TO TAKE THE STAAR TEST. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE THINKING STUFF THAT GOES INTO THAT AS WELL. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I DON'T LIKE THAT, BUT I GUESS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CONTROL CONTROL OVER THAT ONE. ANOTHER THING I'M THINKING OF AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS BEING 1 TO 1. SO I KNOW KATY ISD WENT 1 TO 1 LAST YEAR AND THEY LET THEIR STUDENTS TAKE HOME THEIR LAPTOPS, I BELIEVE, AND A LOT OF PARENTS WERE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND I KNOW WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REALLY CLEAR BEFORE THE BOND ELECTION THAT THESE ARE NOT COMPUTERS, THAT YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING HOME. BUT THAT RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION. DO WE ALLOW STUDENTS TO CHECK OUT LAPTOPS IF NEEDED? WE DO. CURRENTLY, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL CAUSE SCENARIO, IT IS ALLOWED TO BE CHECKED OUT FROM THE CAMPUS.

OKAY. AND OUR KIDS AT 1621 PLACE, DO THEY TAKE THEIRS HOME? IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR THING. IT WOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS OF NEED. BUT TRADITIONALLY, NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY DO. OKAY.

WOULD ONE ON ONE DISTRICT WIDE WOULD THAT BE? EVERY STUDENT USES THE SAME LAPTOP EVERY DAY OR WE WOULD BE. WE ARE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS THAT COULD ALLOW US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S DESIRABLE FOR YOU, THAT THAT IS DESIRABLE. PART OF THAT IS OWNERSHIP OF THE DEVICE. IF IT IS YOUR DEVICE AND YOU'RE NOT TREATING IT WELL, WELL, NOW YOU YOUR TOOL ISN'T IN GOOD SHAPE FOR YOU TO USE TOMORROW. AND SO WE WANT TO FIND SOLUTIONS WHERE THIS IS YOUR DEVICE SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THIS. THE OTHER THING I THINK BACK TO WHAT THE

[01:15:06]

TONIGHT WE WILL COVER VERY QUICKLY THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THIS WITH A $2 MILLION, $2 BILLION BOND ELECTION IN FRONT OF US. IT'S GOOD TO GO BACK AND REVIEW WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE BONDS OUTSTANDING OF A LITTLE OVER 3 BILLION. THE 20 2425 INTEREST IN SINKING TAX RATE IS $0.48. AND OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS WE ACTUALLY HAVE DECREASED OUR TOTAL TAX RATE BY A LITTLE OVER $0.12. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, POST OAK MUNICIPAL ADVISORS, TO ESTIMATE THE COST OF THE ELECTION. WE RAN THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS OF IT, AND FOR $2 BILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS AND CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS, WHICH ARE THE VARIABLES WE USE IN THE ESTIMATION. WE LOOKED AT FOUR BOND SALES ANNUALLY STARTING IN 2026, AND WE FOUND THAT THE TAX RATE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO EXCEED $0.48, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. AND SO THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN THE INS RATE BASED ON THIS ELECTION.

[01:20:14]

WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS GROWTH AND THE TAX RATE THEN WHEN ANOTHER BOND WOULD BE WE WOULD HAVE IF THIS ALL PASSES, WE'LL HAVE $5 BILLION IN BOND DEBT, RIGHT? THE OVERALL TAX RATE WILL NOT INCREASE, IS WHAT WE TELL THE PUBLIC, BUT THE OBLIGATION TO THE TAXPAYER INCREASES. SO IF WE ADD ANOTHER BOND IN 2028, WHAT WHAT ARE THE BEST ESTIMATES OF THE OVERALL TAX RATE AT THAT TIME? WELL. THE DEBT SERVICE ON THIS THE RIGHT NOW OUR DEBT SERVICE IS ABOUT 173 MILLION A YEAR IN THIS ELECTION. THE HIGHEST YEAR OF DEBT SERVICE WERE AT ABOUT 291 MILLION. BASED ON THE FOUR SALES AND THE CONDITIONS THAT WE MODELED. ONCE THE DEBT RATE STARTS DROPPING, WE ARE ABLE TO LAYER ON MORE DEBT AT THAT POINT BECAUSE OUR VALUES WILL HAVE GROWN TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL DEBT. HOPEFULLY, INTEREST RATES WILL HAVE DROPPED BY THEN, YOU KNOW, AND OUR FINANCIAL POSITION WILL STAY THE SAME OR GET BETTER. ALL THOSE THINGS IMPACT WHAT RATE, WHAT INTEREST RATES WE PAY. AND ALSO THEN OF COURSE, THE TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE TO ASSESS ON TAXPAYERS. SO IT'S YOUR ESTIMATION THAT IF WE GO OVER $2 BILLION IN THIS BOND, THAT INS RATE WOULD NEED TO BE RAISED FROM THE $0.48. IS THAT CORRECT? IF WE GO OVER 2 BILLION OR OUR PROPERTY VALUES DON'T GROW AS FAST FOR SOME REASON, SOME YEARS WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS SOME YEARS OUR GROWTH IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE ESTIMATION. AND SO THAT WILL COVER US, YOU KNOW, FOR A YEAR WHERE THE GROWTH MIGHT NOT BE AS HIGH. REALLY, WHAT I'M GETTING AT WHEN THIS FINANCIAL PART IS OVER, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A POSSIBILITY OF A STADIUM. THERE'S A LOT OF BUZZ ON THE INTERNET ABOUT WHY WE'RE NOT BUILDING A STADIUM. SO BUT MY QUESTION, THOUGH, IS IF WE WERE TO WIGGLE IN A STADIUM ON THIS BILL, I MEAN, ON THIS BOND, WE COULD NOT GO OVER $2 BILLION TOTAL UNLESS WE RAISE THE TAX RATE. CORRECT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A STADIUM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE THE APPROXIMATE COST OF THAT STADIUM. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE AMORTIZATION PERIOD OF ON THESE BONDS? ROUGHLY 30 YEARS. 30 YEARS. YES, MA'AM. AND YOU MENTIONED THE INTEREST RATE THAT WE PAY. IS THAT GOING TO BE BASED ON A BOND RATING? YES IT IS. AND WHAT'S MODELED IN HERE IS 4.25%. OKAY. AND SO DOES WHEN WE GO TO WALL STREET TO MARKET THESE BONDS THEN THEN DO THEY THEY LOOK AT THE DISTRICT'S BOND RATING. YES. THEY THEY LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS. TYPICALLY WE ARE COVERED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS GUARANTEE OR THE PERMANENT SCHOOL FUND GUARANTEE, WHICH EQUATES TO A TRIPLE A RATING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN UNDERLYING BOND RATING AS WELL. OKAY. AND SO THAT HELPS US. YES, MA'AM. SO ONE LAST QUESTION. I RECENTLY READ WHERE THE LEGISLATURE HAS AGREED TO INCREASE THE I BELIEVE IT'S THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM 100,000 TO 140,000. YES. I THINK I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER. AND SO AS THOSE

[01:25:05]

WE'RE MADE WHOLE. THANK YOU MA'AM. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS LUDWIG? OKAY. SO WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK, MAYBE CLARIFY, HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON OR HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? YES. I THINK WHAT MR. WELCH MENTIONED IS THE FACEBOOK COMMITTEE AND THE STADIUM. AND SO LET'S EXPLAIN. MAYBE LET'S GO BACK TO THE 2022 BOND. WHAT WAS PROPOSED THEN? WHAT FAILED, WHAT WE THEN PROPOSED IN 2023 OR 24 THAT ALSO FAILED. AND JUST MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE STADIUM.

YES, MA'AM. DURING THE 2022 BOND CITIZEN COMMITTEE, WE HAD MULTIPLE PRIORITIES THAT WE ASKED THAT COMMITTEE TO PRIORITIZE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS AT THE TOP OF THEIR LIST WAS THE SECOND FOOTBALL STADIUM. SO ONE OF OUR PROPOSITIONS IN THE 22 BOND WAS TO GO OUT AND DO REPAIRS TO TRAILER STADIUM, ALONG WITH BUILDING A SECOND FOOTBALL STADIUM WITHIN THE DISTRICT. BOTH OF THOSE PROPOSITIONS FAILED. BOTH THE REPAIRS TO THE STADIUM AND THE SECOND STADIUM. THEN, IN THE FALL OF 23, WE WENT BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO ASK FOR REPAIRS JUST FOR TRAILER STADIUM. NO IMPACT TO THE TAX RATE THAT ALSO FAILED. SO THE LAST THREE ATHLETIC PROPS THAT WE BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY IN TWO AND 22 AND 1 IN 23, THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID NO TO. MR. MCKINNEY. I JUST WANT TO THROW IN THERE IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, WHEN I WAS ON THIS BOARD, THE COMMUNITY SAID NO TO A SECOND STADIUM AT THAT TIME AS WELL. SO IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID NO. EVERY TIME WE'VE ASKED AN AUDITORIUM. YEAH. SO I WAS NOT ON THE BOARD AFTER THE 2022 ONE FAILED. BUT I DO REMEMBER THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, OKAY, WELL IT FAILED, BUT TRAILER IS IN NEED. WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT MAKING SOME OF THESE REPAIRS THAT WE ASKED FOR. SO WE HAVE SINCE THEN WE CUT THE ATHLETIC BUDGET BY 600,000 $600,000 PER YEAR, WHICH MEANT WE CUT STAFFING POSITIONS.

PROGRAMS. WE MOVED A LOT TO PAY TO PLAY. WHAT HAVE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS AND RENOVATIONS HAVE WE MADE ON TRAILER SINCE THEN? AND WHERE DO WHERE DO WE STAND NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT'S STILL NEEDED? SO IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CUTS, WE REPLACED THE TURF SO THAT WE CAME BACK AND MADE THAT A PLAYABLE SURFACE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. YEAR TWO, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, IS WE HAVE KEPT THE CUTS IN PLACE AND THEN REPLACED THE CURRENT STADIUM LIGHTING, NOT THE POLES, JUST THE LIGHTING THEMSELVES. WE WENT FROM INCANDESCENT TO LED. WE HAVE NOT REPLACED THE WIRING IN THE POLES OR THE PANELS SERVING THE POLES, OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. SO THAT'S CURRENTLY THE TWO AREAS THAT WE HAVE. BEEN ABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS AT. AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STADIUM, THOSE ARE MORE SIGNIFICANT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FOUNDATION FOR THE BLEACHERS AND REPLACING THE BLEACHERS. THE OTHER THING THAT AS PART OF THAT, IF WE CAN'T FIND AN ENGINEER CURRENTLY THAT WILL EVALUATE THE BLEACHERS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DESIGN THEM AND THERE'S NO ENGINEERING STAMP DRAWINGS ANYWHERE. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY TELLING US IF WE GO THROUGH AND HAVING TO DO ANY MAJOR TYPE OF UPGRADES TO THOSE STANDS, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THEM DOWN AND REBUILD THEM. WELL, THAT KICKS IN ALL THE CODES FOR RESTROOMS AND CONCESSIONS AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT MEET AT THE AT TRAILER. SO TO CLARIFY, ONCE YOU TOUCH THE STRUCTURE, ONCE YOU DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE BLEACHERS, WE THEN HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING ELSE UP TO CODE. YES MA'AM. THAT INCLUDES ADA COMPLIANCE, THAT INCLUDES RAMPS, AND THEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESTROOMS. WHEN I SAY SIGNIFICANT, WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU, BUT I'M ASSUMING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 80 TO 100 RESTROOM STALLS, BOTH FOR MALE AND FEMALE ON BOTH SIDES. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT HOLDS 10,000 PEOPLE.

SO THERE'S A CERTAIN CODE FOR SO MANY STALLS PER OCCUPANT FOR THE FACILITY. CAN I ASK WOULD IT BE

[01:30:02]

OKAY. SO WE'VE CLOSED OFF A SECTION OF THE BLEACHERS. IS THE REST OF THE STADIUM SAFE AND STRUCTURALLY SOUND, IN YOUR OPINION? RIGHT NOW? YES. WE HAVE ASKED ENGINEERS TO COME OUT TO SAY, WILL YOU LOAD TEST THIS ALL AGAIN? BECAUSE THERE'S NO STAMPED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS.

THERE'S NO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE CANNOT GET A CERTIFICATION. WHAT WE DO IS WE MONITOR THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITY. SO THAT'S HOW WE BASE OUR OUR ASSESSMENT ON NOW IS THE SECTION THAT CURRENTLY IS SECTIONED OFF. IT DOES HAVE SOME DEFLECTION WITHIN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SECTION THOSE OFF. AND WE CONTINUALLY MONITOR THOSE STANDS. SOMETHING WE ALSO DID SINCE THAT BOND FAILED IS WE DECIDED TO MAKE TOMAS'S MAKE SORT OF A MINI STADIUM AT TOMAS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YES, MA'AM. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MADE A DECISION WITH SOME 2017 BOND SAVINGS THAT WAS PRE LEGISLATURE TO REQUIRE THAT AS WE WERE CURRENTLY HAVING TO BUILD THE STADIUM AT TOMAS IS TO INCREASE THE LOCKER ROOMS AND THE CONCESSION AREAS AND RESTROOMS AT THAT FACILITY. WE'LL BE COMING BACK AFTER THAT FACILITY GETS COMPLETELY OPENED.

WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. REQUESTING APPROVAL IN SEPTEMBER WAS A FUTURE ACTION ITEM IN OCTOBER AS AN ACTION ITEM TO INCREASE THE SEATING UP TO 4000 SEATS. CURRENTLY, TREASURE STADIUM'S AT 10,000 MINUS A LITTLE SECTION. WE'RE PROBABLY AT 9700. IT'S CURRENTLY AT TAYLOR STADIUM. THAT WOULD SEAT 4000 LAST SCHOOL YEAR, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND VISITORS THAT ATTENDED OUR STADIUMS THAT WOULD HOLD MAJORITY OF OUR FOOTBALL GAMES.

4000 SEATS. OKAY, WELL, DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE REPAIRS TO TRAILER AGAIN? AT THE VERY LEAST, I KNOW THAT IS GOING. SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE? I HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU LOOK IN THIS FACILITIES REPORT TRAILER STADIUM, IT SAYS 16.9 MILLION TO THAT IS THE NEEDS. IS THAT THE TOTAL NEEDS. IF 16.9 MILLION WOULD BRING IT COMPLETELY UP TO CODE, IT WOULD BE FULLY FUNCTIONING. EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED, I WOULD SAY YES AND NO. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT IS A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET ONLY, NOT INCLUDING INFLATION, SOFT COST AND THE OVERSIGHT OF THE PROGRAM. SO I COULD BRING THAT NUMBER BACK TO YOU TOMORROW NIGHT IF YOU WOULD LIKE A TOTAL ALL IN COST AT TRAILER STADIUM. YOU CAN ALSO ASK IF A 4000 SEAT STADIUM COVERS MOST OF OUR NEEDS AND WHEN WE IF WE TORE DOWN ALL THE BLEACHERS AND REBUILD, WOULD WE HAVE A NEED TO BUILD IT AT 10,000? AND IF WE'RE HAVING TO ADD SO MANY RESTROOMS, THAT SPACE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE TO ADD 80 BATHROOMS, I MEAN, A TRAILER, THE FOOTPRINTS. I GUESS MY POINT IS, IS IF WE IF WE DID SAY 6000 IN THE BLEACHERS AND THEN MADE ROOM FOR THE RESTROOMS, DO YOU MEAN LIKE SCALE IT DOWN SOMEWHAT? MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP WITH COST AND LOGISTICS AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW, THAT COULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IS JUST A SMALLER SEAT STADIUM. WELL, SOMEBODY'S ASKING FOR THOUGHTS. MY THOUGHT IS THE AUDITORIUM BALCONY THING THAT WE'RE THAT WAS PROPOSED. BECAUSE THERE IS DISCUSSION LONG TERM ABOUT CREATING A POSSIBLE FINE ARTS CAMPUS IN THE DISTRICT. AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU WORDED IT, MR. BUCHANAN, OR DIDN'T WORD IT, THE CURRENT CONDITION OF TRAILER STADIUM, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE THAT THE MONEY NEEDED TO REPAIR TRAILER STADIUM COMPLETELY OUT OF THAT 41 MILLION AND EITHER SCRATCH THAT WHOLE ITEM OR COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE WITH THE REMAINING MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE A STADIUM. THAT'S THAT'S SAFE IN

[01:35:07]

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY THINKING THROUGH ANYTHING ELSE? SO SINCE THIS IS A WORKSHOP, I'M CURIOUS FOR THE MY COLLEAGUES THOUGHTS ON THE OPINION I EXPRESSED. I MEAN, WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? YEAH, I SAID I AGREE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF AN AUDITORIUM UPGRADE. LIKE I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE CENTRAL, BIG, BEAUTIFUL AUDITORIUM. I DO, BUT I THINK THAT TRAILER MIGHT JUST BE MORE OF THE PRIORITY GOING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED CREATING A COMMITTEE MAYBE MORE OF LIKE A LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WITH LIKE WHAT TO DO WITH OUR SITES ONCE WE START DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND SO IF A FINE ARTS ACADEMY OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE IS GOING TO BE IN THE MIX, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO WAIT AND SEE WHERE WE GO WITH THAT. AND IF WE CAN'T DO A BIGGER AUDITORIUM THERE. AND SPEND THE MONEY INSTEAD ON TRAILER. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WHAT IT WOULD COST? I KNOW YOU SAID 60. DID YOU SAY 16? THAT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT WITH THE ARCHITECT. BUT THEN I HAVE TO ADD ALL THE ADDITIONAL COST TO ALL OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A COMPLETE PROGRAM COST, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT IS CONSTRUCTION AND THEN HAVE TO ADD INFLATION, LOOK AT IT WHEN IT WILL BE PART OF THE BOND SALE, BECAUSE IT MAY BE A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE WE CAN BE AS PART OF THE BOND SALE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. IF THE BOARD DECIDED TO REPLACE THE AUDITORIUM WITH REPAIRS OF TRAILER, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT $41 MILLION IS ENOUGH TO GET TRAILER UP AND FUNCTIONING AND ALL THE REPAIRS DONE? IT WON'T GO OVER THAT $41 MILLION? THAT IS CORRECT. PROBABLY HALF OF THAT MORE THAN LIKELY. TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS 25 MILLION FOR TOMAS WHEN WE DID IT, BUT WE WERE ALSO IN CONSTRUCTION. SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY WHAT ALL OF THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND WE COULD POSSIBLY DISCUSS DIFFERENT I MEAN, I GUESS IT WOULD BE HARD, HARD FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DESIGN. RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. WELL, ONCE WE COME BACK, WE WILL ASK

[01:40:02]

[01:45:06]

AND THAT, I MEAN, WE ATTEMPTED THAT TWICE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IS NOW OUR COMMUNITY. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, I THINK. AND SO WE ATTEMPTED TO DO JUST THAT. AND WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT CLEARLY THAT THIS IS FOR THE SAFETY AND THIS IS FOR ALL.

STUDENTS WILL TOUCH THIS, NOT JUST HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. 22 PEOPLE OUT THERE ON THE FIELD AT ONE TIME. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY NOW IS REALIZING LIKE, OH, YEAH, I THINK WE DO NEED THIS. AND AS WE'RE GROWING SO FAST AND THERE I'M I'M A TAXPAYER, I HAVE PROPERTY TAXES JUST LIKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I DON'T WANT MY PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, BUT FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOW SEEING AND AFTER GOING THERE AND THEM, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR OTHER EVENTS OTHER THAN FOOTBALL. SO I THINK IT'S MORE EYES ARE BEING PUT ON IT AS WELL. SO I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT OUT A TAJ MAHAL KIND OF THING. WE WANT SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERY SINGLE STUDENT THAT'S GOING TO TOUCH IT, EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER, EVERY SINGLE PARTICIPANT THAT'S SITTING IN THE STANDS. 1998 I WAS AT A FOOTBALL GAME WHEN ONE OF MY REALLY GOOD FRIENDS FELL THROUGH A STADIUM IN LEANDER, TEXAS. AND BEING THERE AND SEEING THAT IN A STADIUM THAT WAS UNSAFE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR STADIUM IS LIKE THAT BY ANY MEANS, BUT BEING IN A SPACE AS A STUDENT AND SEEING THAT AND HAVING ONE OF YOUR REALLY THAT GO THROUGH ONE OF YOUR REALLY GOOD FRIENDS, THAT HAS ALWAYS STUCK WITH ME. AS I WALK INTO SPACES, I LOOK AT RISK MANAGEMENT, I LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND I LOOK AT OUR SITUATION. AND NO, I MEAN, WE HAVE METAL BLEACHERS. THAT WAS WOOD BLEACHERS THAT WAS BACK IN THE DAY. WHENEVER YOU GET SPLINTERS, WHEN YOU SIT DOWN KIND OF THING, BUT IT'S JUST ALWAYS SOMETHING LIKE WE HAVE AS THE STEWARDS THAT WE ARE UP HERE. WE WANT THE MOST SAFEST ENVIRONMENT, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS OUR VOTERS GET OUT AND VOTE AND HELP SUPPORT US IN THAT AREA. RIGHT. I WOULD I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM. I TO I, I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA, BUT THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF SHARING ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOLS WE HAVE, IT WOULD BE LIKE ONE HIGH SCHOOL DOESN'T EVEN GET A FULL MONTH TO DO A PRODUCTION THERE. IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR I LOOK AT ARE THE STUDENTS BEING BUSSED? SO ARE YOU SAYING? I MEAN, IF WE WERE JUST TO SAY WE'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED AT FOSTER, WELL, SO THEN ARE THE STUDENTS FROM GEORGE RANCH BEING BUSSED EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR A MONTH TO GO BUILD THEIR SETS, TO BRING THEIR ORCHESTRA TO. AND THEN DO WE HAVE THE BUSSES TO PROVIDE THEM THE TRAVEL TO THAT? AND I KNOW IN OUR BOND COMMITTEE WE SAID, WELL, IT'S OPEN TO THE WHOLE DISTRICT. SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, 36, 37 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ALL TRYING TO SHARE THAT ONE ON TOP OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, TRYING TO SHARE THAT ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE DOING A PLAY WITH OUR PROPS TO STAY, BUT OUR ORCHESTRAS PERFORM LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FEASIBLE OPTION OF SHARING, AND THAT'S ON A HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS. SO THEN YOU'RE TELLING THAT HIGH SCHOOL, WELL, I'M SORRY, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR AUDITORIUM BECAUSE GEORGE RANCH IS DOING A PLAY TODAY. I THINK THE IDEA OF A FINE ARTS CENTER WHERE IT'S NOT TIED TO A CAMPUS, YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT AWAY FROM A CAMPUS, AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING THAT CENTRAL SITE WHERE IT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE. AND I AND I THINK IF YOU. I THINK IF YOU'RE PRESENTING IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE I WILL SAY THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT I WAS PRESENTED THIS, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE UPGRADING EVERY SINGLE AUDITORIUM TO 1250 SEATS AND THAT EVERY SINGLE AUDITORIUM WAS GETTING THAT ORCHESTRA PIT AND THE PROP STORAGE. BUT WHEN YOU SAY NO, NO, NO, JUST ONE IN OUR DISTRICT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FEASIBLE OPTION FOR THE SIZE OF OUR DISTRICT. OKAY. ALL GOOD POINTS. QUESTION. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND AT CONSIDERING THE EVEN AFTER WE MOVE THE RED TRACK, IF WE DID, TO BUILD A STADIUM SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AT TOMAS OUT AT SPUR TEN AND HIGHWAY 59, I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO, BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE USE THE LAND FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THERE'S ABOUT 15 ACRES LEFT JUST FOR AN ELEMENTARY. SO 15 ACRES WOULD

[01:50:01]

THAT'S GREAT. WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE AUDITORIUM ONCE IT'S UPGRADED, ARE YOU ADDING SQUARE FOOT? YES, MA'AM. I'LL HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK. THAT WAS ONE OF THE INFORMATION ITEMS FOR ME TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD TOMORROW NIGHT. IF WE WERE TO DO THE AUDITORIUM OFF SITE, NOT ON AN EXISTING SCHOOL, COULD WE REPURPOSE ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT, LIKE, WHERE EITHER NAVARRO OR GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH IS FOR AN AUDITORIUM THAT'S IN THE FUTURE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THAT COULD BE AN OPTION. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP OF JUST ALL THE WHOLE DISTRICT? SO, LIKE, FORWARD THINKING, STRATEGIC PLANNING WISE, IF WE WERE TO HAVE TRAILER AND THEN WE HAVE TOMAS, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD ONE DAY PUT A THIRD STADIUM SOMEWHERE MORE IN THE RANDALL GEORGE RANCH, AND PROBABLY THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE HIGH SCHOOL TEN DOWN THERE EVENTUALLY, LIKE THE AUSTIN POINT AREA. I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE AT THAT POINT. AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THEY'VE DONE AT TOMAS, EITHER TOMAS OR OR A BIG BRAND NEW STADIUM, I MEAN. EVEN SOMETHING WITHIN AUSTIN POINT, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL IN THERE EVENTUALLY, WHICH WE WILL. YEAH. HAVE WE LOOKED AT I GUESS WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT LAND? BUT WE KNOW IT'S ALL WE KNOW. THERE'S A LOT OF LAND AND A LOT OF HOUSES COMING. SO. ANOTHER BOND. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS QUESTIONS? YES. BOARD. SO WHAT WE'LL DO TIM AND I WILL GET TOGETHER THIS EVENING AND IN THE MORNING, REVISE THIS PRESENTATION FOR TOMORROW NIGHT'S BOARD MEETING AND WE'LL WE'LL MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD. AND AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT WHEN I ASK

[01:55:01]

NO. OKAY. WELL THEN THAT IS IT. IT IS 655 AND THE MEETING IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.